.223/5.56 SD/HD Ammo Questions

[Gunner3456]

So now that you smart guys have had the obligatory reload and 223 Vs 556 discussion,which I appreciate in the reloading section,can we get back to the subject at hand???

Seriously,if you are in an urban setting,is the 556 AR the best choice,unless we have a real SHTF scenario? We're talking a lot of potential collateral damage to everyone within ,what? 500 yards?
In the country I can see it,but in town seems you are looking for trouble.

So how about the AR pistols and velocities? Would that slow the round down and control over penetration better?

BTW I do appreciate you big brains .

What does our military use to clear buildings in urban settings where collateral damage would be considered horrible?

You can't name me anything which is powerful enough to have real expectations of taking out a BG which won't also penetrate walls, not even a good handgun. If you fling shots around wildly, you may hit something you didn't want to hit. The only answer I have for over penetration is to hit your target.

If a 55 gr 5.56 hits the BG center of mass, it's probably going to stay put.

If you're worried about 500 yards in an urban setting, you do have the option of a shotgun, but you still need to hit your target.

You do have the option (which I use except for 55 gr 5.56) of firing psp or hollow point rounds which will probably stop, center of mass.

 

[deadshot2]

What does our military use to clear buildings in urban settings where collateral damage would be considered horrible?

Answer: Usually one of these----

 

[Gunner3456]

Answer: Usually one of these----

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I'd feel safer with an Abrams.

 

[deadshot2]

I'd feel safer with an Abrams.

That's what you use for clearing a whole BLOCK of buildings Problem with them though is swinging the main gun in narrow streets. Better approach is to just blow everything up so you can have a clear field of fire.

Now sell that to your neighborhood Homeowner's Association.

 

[Kevatc]

For me, a long gun is a poor choice INSIDE and a pistol is a poor choice for OUTSIDE.

Good general rule of thumb.

Now sell that to your neighborhood Homeowner's Association.

I think if you have an M1A1 you can just assert your "right" without debate!