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Remember that Sig and the military are all about modularity… using the same lower with a different caliber upper… what else could blow up?
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I wouldn't bet my eyeballs on it. Have fun.The throat/chamber of the barrel is where the most pressure takes place…. If they swapped out the 308 with 277 fury they won't have to worry about the pressure
Like the idea of a battle rifle. The thing is comparing the felt weight of FAL vs felt weight of scar is different. M1A or M14 are being made with shorter barrels. If we're talking WW3 rifle I would still stick with either an AR or AK and a good bolt action. If I could only have one rifle vs the 2 I would go with whatever Sig's semi auto version will be for the caliber if money isn't a concern. However, I don't have it like that so I will stick to the tried and true 308 AR 10 or the Scar17sI was thinking more of a modern design eith some form of accessory rail(s), free floating barrel and optics mount, than a simple FAL furniture and barrel swap.
Yes the FAL is heavy as is (7.2-8.9#). So is any 7.62 battle rifle (7.9-11.6#) from the M1 to the SCAR-H. Comes with the 7.62x51 X20 capability. But the 6.8x51 is a physically lighter round.
But wasn't thinking of an assault rifle but a battle rifle for an WW3 scenario as opposed to urban combat.
One of the reasons I was looking at the 6.8x51. 1000m capable 3000fps velocity 135gr FMJ able to defeat modern armor from a 16" barrel. Using an 18.5" barrel brings that to about 3100fps or a 140gr to just over 3000fps.Like the idea of a battle rifle. The thing is comparing the felt weight of FAL vs felt weight of scar is different. M1A or M14 are being made with shorter barrels. If we're talking WW3 rifle I would still stick with either an AR or AK and a good bolt action. If I could only have one rifle vs the 2 I would go with whatever Sig's semi auto version will be for the caliber if money isn't a concern. However, I don't have it like that so I will stick to the tried and true 308 AR 10 or the Scar17s
I'll believe it when I see it.Is a necked down 7.62 NATO, flat and fast. About to become the US 'close combat force' round in the M4/M249 replacements
Yeah, I'm sure they will plenty 6.8x51 laying to wage war in the upcoming zombie apocalypse.But wasn't thinking of an assault rifle but a battle rifle for an WW3 scenario as opposed to urban combat.
Generally, I agree. But the ammount of data from various sources out there says otherwise.I'll believe it when I see it.
Or a north central or south eastern european border incursion. Especially if by zombies you mean little green men from Wagner et al.Yeah, I'm sure they will plenty 6.8x51 laying to wage war in the upcoming zombie apocalypse.
I am aware of the "Army Next Generation Squad Weapon" but they have been saying the same thing for decades. It's always the same story, they'll get a couple hundred maybe a thousand or two and in the process of ringing them out will discover the high chamber pressure is killing guns, the woke soy boy Marine can't handle the recoil and target scores will plummet, their fancy hybrid case is choking and supply can't keep up with shooting all those Russians and Chinese, so everyone will be using an AR. Bottom line, the AR will continue to be America's weapon for the next 50 years, unless Elon Musk invents the phaser or Beijing Brandon sells the farm to China, in that case it'll be the gulags. Anyway, like I said I'll believe it when I see it, not in some internet article but actually happening.Generally, I agree. But the ammount of data from various sources out there says otherwise.
The Army is on the verge of picking a replacement for the M4 and M249
'Particularly with the global situation going to hell, let’s get these weapons in the hands of close combat soldiers.'taskandpurpose.com
Fair enough. Disagree but your prediction is definitely possible. I guess we will see in a few years.I am aware of the "Army Next Generation Squad Weapon" but they have been saying the same thing for decades. It's always the same story, they'll get a couple hundred maybe a thousand or two and in the process of ringing them out will discover the high chamber pressure is killing guns, the woke soy boy Marine can't handle the recoil and target scores will plummet, their fancy hybrid case is choking and supply can't keep up with shooting all those Russians and Chinese, so everyone will be using an AR. Bottom line, the AR will continue to be America's weapon for the next 50 years, unless Elon Musk invents the phaser or Beijing Brandon sells the farm to China, in that case it'll be the gulags. Anyway, like I said I'll believe it when I see it, not in some internet article but actually happening.
So what you are saying is that she is more of a man than the Marines? Or maybe the NGSW (Next Generation Squad Wimp)I am aware of the "Army Next Generation Squad Weapon" but they have been saying the same thing for decades. It's always the same story, they'll get a couple hundred maybe a thousand or two and in the process of ringing them out will discover the high chamber pressure is killing guns, the woke soy boy Marine can't handle the recoil and target scores will plummet, their fancy hybrid case is choking and supply can't keep up with shooting all those Russians and Chinese, so everyone will be using an AR. Bottom line, the AR will continue to be America's weapon for the next 50 years,
And she had to lean in to the point where she was about to fall over and by the time she emptied a mag was almost standing straight up. Yeah, a super mild recoil that...So what you are saying is that she is more of a man than the Marines? Or maybe the NGSW (Next Generation Squad Wimp)
I noticed it too but the point was the fact that she could handle it better than the tenderfoot nowadays first thing. Also she fired it full auto. Then there's the point that she over exaggerates the stance because she is only 5'4" and 115 lbs and it looks cooler for the video but hey like I said it proves that it can be fired full auto by a girl that's got more spine than most people. Just like the fact that we shot the M60e3 in the 90's just like in Rambo to prove that it could be done. I taught my daughter how to one hand shoot a 3" 12ga slug from a shotgun.And she had to lean in to the point where she was about to fall over and by the time she emptied a mag was almost standing straight up. Yeah, a super mild recoil that...
Back in my (and probably your) day guns were common tools and most of us learned to shoot as soon as we were big enough to reach the trigger. Nowadays even though there are still a lot of guns they are mostly in the toy and not tool category. That's why so many lean away instead of into until coached properly.I noticed it too but the point was the fact that she could handle it better than the tenderfoot nowadays first thing. Also she fired it full auto. Then there's the point that she over exaggerates the stance because she is only 5'4" and 115 lbs and it looks cooler for the video but hey like I said it proves that it can be fired full auto by a girl that's got more spine than most people. Just like the fact that we shot the M60e3 in the 90's just like in Rambo to prove that it could be done. I taught my daughter how to one hand shoot a 3" 12ga slug from a shotgun.