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I would like to see a PATRIOT box. I feel that American doesnt stand for much any more.
Heck, now days not many "Americans" speak the native language. Many have come here illegally. Many dont pay taxes or contribute. Many come here to reap the benefits and hinder our "American way".

How much did we spend to get a census written in 33 languages?
I guess I will just never get it!
 
I'm so confused.;)

Race keeps changing.

From:
<broken link removed>

1870:

1: Bushmen
2: Negroes
3: Negritoes
4: Melanochroi
5: Australoids
6: Xanthochroi
7: Polynesians
8: Mongoloids A
8: Mongoloids B
8: Mongoloids C
9: Esquimaux



20th century:

1. Caucasoid race
2. Congoid race
3. Capoid race
4. Mongoloid race
5. Australoid race

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I don't see ?????-American anywhere. Are we extinct? First there were 9 races, then 5, then...?
 
Last time I checked, there was a North America, South America and Central America. Just what type of American are you now, hmm? Did you buy the trademark or something? Oh I know, your a REAL American. Who lives in REAL Americanland. A checkered national flag with an 88 in a circle. And you speak American. :s0113:

I'm all for giving the census people the middle digit and all, but this "proud to be an American" thing is humorous at best.
 
I'm holding out to get personal instruction from a crew of ACORN "workers." I want them to earn my answers:

Residents = 2
Sex = Yes
Race = 26.2
Income = not enough

Actually I am curious to see how much effort they will put into getting me to say just "Two."

Since the purpose is for establishing congressional districts, why not just use the registered voter rolls and not do a census at all? That was a rhetorical question.

I know they have over reached to use it for welfare benefits, schools, etc.
 
Something interesting I came across...

... Armed With a GPS and 'None of Their Business' Questions!


Yes, it is that time of the decade again. Beware, the 2010 Census Taker (CT) , now happening in your neighborhood, albeit a year early. And something new has been added. The CT is armed with a GPS unit to log the GPS coordinates for your front door. Why?... ~ Ron Ewart

This has all the earmarks of the USDA wanting to tag every animal in America with an RFID chip. What’s next? RFID chips for people? It sounds even more like gun registration, or Obama’s desire, under a National Health Care System, to put your medical records on the Internet. To the government, you are just a numbered idiot.

The Constitution of the United States only mentions the census as an ”enumeration” in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3: ”....The actual ‘Enumeration’ shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”.

Obviously, the question arises, what was meant by an "enumeration" in the minds of the framers and how much information should be requested in such “enumeration”? The dictionary defines ”enumeration” as, to ascertain the “number” of, as in a count, or a head count in the case of a census. A “head” count folks, not all-encompassing, data-farming by an intrusive, arrogant government, out to collect everything and anything they can get, on every free American citizen in America. Welcome to the U. S. Gulag 2010. Or is this America’s version of Auschwitz, Dachau, or Buchenwald, where the inmates have numbers tatooed on their arms. GPS coordinates, RFID chips, or tatooes, what’s the difference?

And no matter what the government says, or the stiff fines and penalties it imposes on census takers to not reveal the information they collect, we all know about laptop computers being lost or stolen, containing hundreds of thousands of records of sensitive information about American citizens. We all know about census employees digging into to census data, to get the goods on prominent people, yes and even Barack Hussein Obama.

As a historical perspective, we have excerpted the following information from the Constitution Online Website at: usconstitution.net
(too much info to post)

What should be noted here is that, in practice, the federal government has not been enforcing the penalty on a citizen’s failure to respond to the census. So even if you don’t respond, the chances are, nothing will happen. Nevertheless, we are suggesting that, whether you get the long or the short form, only give the names of the individuals in your household, their ages and your address, nothing else! A simple head count is all that is required by the Constitution. This author has done that for years and has never been fined, or even contacted by a census taker.

And one other thing. To let a real live census taker on your property is an invitation for them to collect huge volumes of data about you and your property, including your GPS coordinates! Why does the Federal Government need your GPS coordinates anyway? They already have your address.

Your property line is your first line of defense against a tyrannical government and their agents. So we further recommend that you install NO TRESPASSING signs on your property, with a special note to census takers, KEEP OUT! Our organization has one of the most powerful, legally intimidating signs in America. Rural or urban, we encourage you to check them out at narlo.org. Well over 1,000 of our signs have been sold nationwide. Orders for new signs continue to come in, almost every day.

The fact is, that every year, government, at every level, gets more intrusive in all of our lives, motivated by socialists, radical environmentalists and the one-world-order crowd. It is way past time to resist these unconstitutional advances by government to control everything we do, where we work, what we drive, how we live, the temperature in our homes, or even how we spend our money! Remember this! As free American citizens, it is none of their damn business. They have no constitutional authority to do what they are doing with the 2010 census and the volumes of data they are collecting. Resist! Resist! Resist!

Americans are not robots (well most of them aren’t). They are supposed to be free-thinking, independent, educated, self-reliant, responsible and free individuals of the United States of America. Let’s hope they start acting like it.


Ron Ewart - April 21, 2009 - source CanadaFreePress
 
....we all know about laptop computers being lost or stolen, containing hundreds of thousands of records of sensitive information about American citizens. We all know about census employees digging into to census data, to get the goods on prominent people, yes and even Barack Hussein Obama.

Ron Ewart needs to lay off the kool aid. What 'sensitive' information is in the Census that isn't already in dozens or hundreds of other databases? My name? My address? My birthday? It's not like I hide my 'race' either! If you have my address, then Google will happily tell you my GPS coordinates.

I'm sure glad my ancestors didn't have that attitude about the census two hundred years ago, because doing genealogical research would be mighty difficult.

And what the **** is Ewart talking about when he talks about census employees getting the goods on prominent people and Obama?
 
Really? I did not know that US Census data is available to the public for doing genealogy research. I thought they only made demograpic count/distribution data available.

I think VISA or Facebook could provide a more accurate count than an army of low paid, temporary government workers.

Is it fair to ask the census workers their family memer names and addresses as long as they are collecting your personal data beyond "How many people reside at this location? Or, How many adults and how many minors reside here?" Why do they need names, sex, ages, etc. I know they want it.
 
This thread has run it's course. While the topic is interesting it does violate the following rule:


9. The "Legal & Political" section is to pertain to firearms only. There shall be no legal & political discussion and/or material outside of the "Legal & Political" section.

There are many different people here with many different viewpoints on various issues. Like religion, discussing these issues here is highly likely to offend and very little good can come of it. We need to be focusing on the things that bring us together (firearms), not the things that have the potential to divide us (politics).

For conservative discussion, check out <broken link removed>

For liberal discussion, check out www.DemocraticUnderground.com

...therefore I am closing this thread.
 
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