17 State AG's putting UPS and Fedex on notice

[Yarome]

Questioning their new shipping policies regarding firearms and questioning possible collusion with an alphabet to circumvment laws prohibiting the sharing of information with government agencies without a warrant.

Good read!

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MTAG/2022/11/29/file_attachments/2340501/11.29.2022_UPS-FedEx-letters.pdf

What's very distrubing is I guess they have some type of gag order account holders must sign not to disclose the contents of their account agreements. It makes you wonder if they don't want anyone to know about it because provisions in the contract may be illegal(?)

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[kenboy]

I wish I lived in one of those states that at least have some common sense and ask questions……

 

[Hawaiian]

UPS and Fedex should be required to disclose the government officials that requested/prompted them to impliment this policy.

 

[GOG]

The feds probably put them up to it, but they seem only too happy to comply.

 

[Yarome]

The feds probably put them up to it, but they seem only too happy to comply.

If that's true, they certainly didn't put up a fight over it, but it's also understandable to bow to those that have authority to regulate and impose impact on the industry you participte it. If the public is willing to accept the change without much impact to your bottom line... most would choose to keep those that govern them happy.

 

[GOG]

Yeah. Sad isn't it.

 

[BPOR11]

Not surprised about fed ex… I wonder if ol Raj's name is on the guest register at the White House?

 

[L84Cabo]

Fox News Article on this...

Montana AG concerned FedEx, UPS may be tracking gun ownership for White House

Attorney General of Montana Austin Knudsen is requesting information from UPS and FedEx on their updated shipping policies related to firearms and firearm parts.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[titsonritz]

Elon Musk should start a shipping company and take a royal bite out of their azzes.

 

[MichaelH]

Not sure why the feds would put them up to it as Federal law is the floor for gun regulation, not the ceiling. They can get information for forbidden items shipped (like auto-sear wall hangers) via warrant. I get that they might require segregated boxes for actual FFL transferred items to take special care to only release to an FFL. They might want FFLs to keep records for them to avoid potential liability for negligent deliveries of firearms, in case they lose their own paperwork, but what are the foreseeable damages to Fed Ex UPS for breach of that contract?

 

[Yarome]

Not sure why the feds would put them up to it as Federal law is the floor for gun regulation, not the ceiling. They can get information for forbidden items shipped (like auto-sear wall hangers) via warrant.

Exactly for that reason. A warrant is currently required which necessitates "cause", paperwork and approval of a judge. Bypass cause. Bypass warrants. Bypass those pesky privacy laws and increase the scope of scrutiny exponentially to include EVERYONE at all times!

What's not to love about that... from the feebs perspective?

 

[Capn Jack]

Why don't the rest of the AG's have balls enough to sign on with this?

 

[MichaelH]

Why don't the rest of the AG's have balls enough to sign on with this?

It's not about balls, it's about inclination and philosophy. Some AG's don't care, why waste the time, others gleefully cheer anything that makes investigating crime easier, and others are in favor of firearms control.