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Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by jp1985, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. jp1985

    jp1985 Linn County, Oregon Active Member

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    thanks all.
     
  2. aksu747

    aksu747 Beaverton Active Member

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    For large crowds an ak in 7.62x39mm with hollows point will take down anything with two legs while having high capacity and good stopping power,or mac 10 pistol in .460 Rowland(aka .44 mag for auto pistols) would be quite devastating and either will also be very reliable.
     
  3. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Saiga 12 with several 20-round drums of 00 buckshot. Each drum could unload 180 .33 caliber pellets downrange as fast as you could pull the trigger. Shock effect alone would probably mean fast crowd dispersal (unless they were zombies) well before your first drum went empty. Pure devastation.

    Keith
     
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    aksu747 Beaverton Active Member

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    That is a great choice but for me I would rather load up the saiga 12 with 3" slugs for massive would channels and better penetration through cover.
     
  5. plumberfishes

    plumberfishes Gresham oregon Active Member

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    keep the drums loaded with one buck, and one slugs.. color code, and be ready for anything... to me the drums are too big and heavy, i like the stick mags... but i'm rolling old school with an 8 round pump!
     
  6. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    A fully loaded Helo with a full compliment of support along for the ride.

    Hey if we're dreaming go big
     
  7. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Actually, it depends on what you want to do.
    Disperse a crowd? Go with a .308 and just plug one or two people. The rest will scatter.

    Stop an advancing mob? Rack the slide on a Mossberg 500 to get their attention. If there's a loudmouth egging them on, shoot him. The rest will scatter.

    Stop a full-scale assault? An AR or AK with large magazines.

    Or, just switch to another channel and watch re-runs of Gilligan's Island, then shoot the television.

    :bluelaugh: :laugh: ;)
     
  8. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    AK47 with 100 rd drum and FN SLP MK 1 shotgun. Those are my choices out of many weapons. I have a 30 caliber can labeled "12 GA carry package".. opened it has a 20 rd belt pouch and a 50 round bandoleer, loaded

    Racking a shotgun merely deprives you of one more shell
     
  9. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    I think that the Korean merchants proved that your theory is correct during the LA riots in the 1980's. Shoot one and the others will run like rabbits and find another street to do their looting.

    A good AR,M-14, Mini-14, Mini-30, or Ak would be the solution to a problem.
     
  10. mortar maggot

    mortar maggot western wa Active Member

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    Do you really want to limit yourself to one gun?

    This gives reason to buy many more, a few pistols, an AR, AK, .308 of some flavor, a few shotguns. Now go out and get 6-10 guns
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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  12. jp1985

    jp1985 Linn County, Oregon Active Member

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    delete.
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    A consideration if you're on a budget..AK ammo is half what good 5.56 goes for

    I don't like the Saigas because the shells can be depressed in a stick mag and deform/jam, and the magazine sticks out, unlike the FN or other shotties. A shotgun is a close range weapon and the mag is just one more handle for attackers to grab
     
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    jp1985 Linn County, Oregon Active Member

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    delete.
     
  15. del_and_bones

    del_and_bones Anchorage, AK Physics Pirate

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    I work off the principle that happiness is an automatic weapon with a belt feed. I'd ideally have an M249, M60, HK21, M240, M2 etc. But since money is an issue for me, I'd grab my AK, AR or Saiga 12 depending on the situation.
     
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    mosinguy by the ocean Member

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    Blitz an easy remedy for the saiga mags is your first shell be a solid brass one or a 2.5" mini slug niether will deform while sitting and waiting I used the brass ones.
     
  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    No worries here, have plenty. Lots of AKs and SKS rifles out there.. and if you survive a few shoots you'll have plenty of capture weapons in common calibers
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, as long as you have metal shells
     
  19. just dan

    just dan PDX Active Member

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    Violent crowd? No concern about collateral damage?
    Screw the gun, hand me a grenade.
    :)
     
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    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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