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Which firearms manufacturers (if any) make ALL their own parts, components, and assembly under the same roof?

I believe those firearms (if any) will have and hold more value than the firearms that are amalgamated with parts and components that are outsourced or grey marketed.

Just an idea...

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Ruger is probably pretty close. Not all under one roof, but I know they have their own forging facility.

S&W moved all AR parts in house after the quality control issues during one of the periods of AR price stupidity.
 
I'm pretty sure that all AR15 lowers are made by a few different machine shops and sold too different gun company's the ANDERSON MILL SPECK LOWER IS THE SAME AS THE SMITH AND WESSON M@P they just stamp a different name on the side
 
Aaaaaand that's why I bought cheap lowers.
The difference in a $40 lower and a $300 lower is the name stamped on the side. Same with the upper.
There are a few exceptions, but few and far between.
 
I'm pretty sure that all AR15 lowers are made by a few different machine shops and sold too different gun company's the ANDERSON MILL SPECK LOWER IS THE SAME AS THE SMITH AND WESSON M@P they just stamp a different name on the side

Calling DPMS about a broken extractor on a new LR, and being referred to Bushmaster...WTH?
 
I don't think any manufacturer makes all of the springs and screws and pins and other small common parts that go into a firearm.

Then there are the forgings, and molds (plastic parts), etc.

Almost every manufacturer of most anything outsources some parts, or buys some things off the shelf.

I work for one of the largest manufacturers in the world, and they outsource a lot of things - sometimes from their subsidiaries, sometimes some components from their competitors because the customer wants that particular component (our customers can specify what components they want). To make every component in our end product we would have to be specialists in a lot of unrelated manufacturing concerns as there are thousands of parts in our products. We put them together on an assembly line, and as each product rolls off it is often quite different than the product that came off ahead of it - meant to be used quite differently. That is how we differentiate ourselves from our competitors who do not offer anywhere near that level of customization.
 
Grand power. This video plus the few reviews that are out there sold me on them. I only have 1 right now but will own more. They are quality pistols and I like that one person builds your entire gun and his mark is on it.
 
Aaaaaand that's why I bought cheap lowers.
The difference in a $40 lower and a $300 lower is the name stamped on the side. Same with the upper.
There are a few exceptions, but few and far between.

This is absolutely not true. Granted a mil spec lower made from a forging should be functionally the same that does not mean a $300 lower and a $40 lower are the same other than the roll mark.

Not that there's anything wrong with $40 lowers. I have bought lots of them over the years. But a Noveske Gen III is a fair bit preferable to a closed ear Anderson.
 
Being in the service from 18-40; It never occurred to me that a grey market exists; playing "catch up" on who owns what seems to be much more difficult than ever.

Learning and keeping up with which corporations or entities own which brand of fire arms would be the next challenge...

Looking at all the stamps on a Nagant pistol made in the 30s is understandable...but who in the heck owns Marlin, who owns Remington, who owns Colt..?

My premise might be difficult to support; single-source manufacturing (or the most of) will hold greater value as the "shell game" continues...

Henry Arms seems to publicize where they get their metal and wood....

Some of the old Garands were heat treated using questionable methods...etc.
 
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This is absolutely not true. Granted a mil spec lower made from a forging should be functionally the same that does not mean a $300 lower and a $40 lower are the same other than the roll mark.

Not that there's anything wrong with $40 lowers. I have bought lots of them over the years. But a Noveske Gen III is a fair bit preferable to a closed ear Anderson.

I have heard that Bravo Company (looking for the term...) Requires?

Requires tighter tolerances in the rifles they build.

Drilling down to see what standard of spring a company uses in a particular area of a rifle also seems to be impossible to do..:oops:
 

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