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If I thought that I was in territory where my 9mm was not powerful enough I would take my AR Pistol in 300 blackout. 30 rounds > 18 rounds, 2500 fps > 1200 fps.
The "Blackout" is not a very powerful round especially subsonic. You have just slightly more energy then a .45 cap which falls far short of the other guns mentioned. I will just say a few years ago from personal experience that a 220gr bullet from a "Blackout" moving ~1100 fps is NOT enough for a small black bear at 25-30 yards
I have not researched the energy in supersonic as I only shoot my Whisper as SS. If I want to go fast I have other .30 cal for that.
^^^^ Same here, I carry either the G20 or G29. Use the 15 round mags for backup in the G29.
I really don't understand why people keep using the energy of a round to determine how its going to travel through flesh Sectional density is much more telling of a stat, and a heavy .308 has a much higher SD than a .45. even a moderately heavy .308 has a much higher SD that equates to better penetration.
Yeah, more people and dogs are killed by moose than bear.
More people in the USA die from bee stings than rattlesnake bites - by far - and yet it seems everybody and their dog is shooting every snake they see in the wild.
With ammo being so scarce I gave up bee hunting. It's cause them damn Bees are so much harder to hit!
truth on the moose......I was totally unaware of Grizz in WA.
Real simple. As stated from personal experience on an animal at very close distance............... I have had a .300 Whisper/Fireball/.221/.223/BLK/whatever for about 5 years now. Again I only shoot SS with a silencer on it. I am very aware off paper how effective/ineffective it is.
When I got it I had planned on short range hunting with it. I do not find it to be an effective round, in SS, for that.
Your experience is vastly different than mine. You do know that the 300 blackout is ballistically equivalent to the 30-30, and there are plenty of bear/deer/elk/moose/etc... that have been killed with that round.
either you missed, your bullet selection was not optimal, the load was not optimal, or your marksmanship was not optimal.