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1 dead, 4 hurt in St. Louis factory rampage

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by xstayfrostyx, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. xstayfrostyx

    xstayfrostyx PDX Member

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  2. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    "Ammunition Belt"

    So was that a hunting style, western style, or belt fed MG style ammunition belt?
  3. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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  4. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    These statements from the article are EXACTLY why I carry...
    • Many neighbors described Herndon as an amicable family man
    • "I couldn't ask for a better neighbor."
    • "We never had any problems with him."
    • "Gee, I've talked to Tim many times, and he never exhibited any mental aberration."
    • "He seems like a really nice guy."
  5. whatzhizname

    whatzhizname Southern Oregon and occasionally PDX Member

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  6. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    First of all, my thoughts go out to the families of the victims.


    "Large assault rifle."

    lol.. Probably a hunting rifle, perhaps even a semiautomatic ar-15 with lead core ammunition..

    Reminds me of the "cop killer" rounds that are "only available to law enforcement" but worry police who have been trying to stop their use.


    Good luck finding those military rounds.
    Heh. Police are less firearm-ownership friendly than some of you think.


    Wow, the argument from the big Mexico scare.
    ..because it makes a lot of sense that Mexican drug cartels are buying overpriced, underpowered weapons and ammunition individually from inside the United States, and taking massive risks by trying to move it across the border.

    Most of the cartels get weapons and military, armor piercing ammunition by the truckload from China, Brazil, etc..
  7. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    The article has been updated again.

    Suspect in St. Louis plant shooting believed dead
    By JIM SALTER, Associated Press Writer Jim Salter, Associated Press Writer

    ST. LOUIS – A disgruntled worker embroiled in a pension dispute with his company showed up at the plant and opened fire Thursday, killing three people and wounding five before apparently killing himself.

    The shooting spree at ABB Group's plant sent frightened co-workers scrambling into closets and to the snow-covered roof for safety.

    Police declined to name the gunman, but he has widely been identified as 51-year-old Timothy Hendron of Webster Groves, a St. Louis suburb. Fire officials confirmed earlier Thursday that that was the name of the person police said they were seeking.

    Police said a man believed to be the gunman was found dead inside the plant from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, but they would not release his name.

    "We're very confident that this is the shooter," Police Chief Dan Isom said at a news conference.

    The shooting began at 6:30 a.m. at the plant where the Swiss-owned company makes electrical transformers. Police spent hours inside the sprawling building searching for the gunman and additional victims.

    The motive for the shooting wasn't known, and Isom said it may be weeks before police pieced together why it happened. But in 2006, Hendron and other ABB workers sued the company over retirement losses. The federal lawsuit accused ABB and its pension-review committee of causing their 401(k) accounts to include investment options with "unreasonable and excessive" — and undisclosed — fees and expenses. The suit went to trial Tuesday in Kansas City.

    The shooting began during a shift change at the plant, which employs about 270 people. Forty to 50 employees were likely in the building at the time, police Capt. Sam Dotson said.

    Two of those killed were found in the parking lot outside the plant, Isom said. One victim and the man believed to be the shooter were found inside, along with three weapons — an assault rifle, a handgun and a shotgun, he said.

    It wasn't clear how many shots were fired, but authorities said employees scurried to find refuge from the bullets.

    "Many of them sought safety on the roof, in boilers and broom closets," Dotson said.

    Names of the victims were not immediately released. Police said two of the injured were in critical condition and two were in fair condition. One was treated at a hospital and released.

    The shooting occurred on what was already a chaotic day in St. Louis after 4 inches of snow fell, winds whipped to more than 30 mph and the wind chill dipped below zero.

    Dozens of emergency vehicles circled the sprawling plant. Interstate 70 was closed for about three miles in both directions for several hours while police searched for the gunman in and around the plant.

    ABB Group makes power transmission and industrial automation equipment. The company manufactures transformers at the St. Louis site. ABB has operations in roughly 100 countries, employing about 120,000 people. Last October, ABB reported third-quarter earnings of more than $1 billion.

    Thomas Schmidt, an ABB corporate spokesman in Zurich, Switzerland, said in statement that the company had received reports of the shooting.

    "This is obviously a very serious situation and we are working to gather more information as it becomes available," the statement said. "The welfare of our employees is of utmost importance to us."

    Word of Hendron's alleged involvement in the shooting stunned his neighbors in Webster Groves. Many described Hendron as an amicable family man who kept a well-manicured home.

    "I couldn't ask for a better neighbor. We never had any problems with him," said Glennon Meyer, 71, noting that Hendron made friendly gestures ranging from raking Meyer's leaves to bringing over a chocolate cake last Christmas.

    Yet even those who knew him casually were aware that Hendron was unhappy at work. He mentioned in passing that he was having problems at ABB, and over the last two years he asked his neighbor Mike Sweney, an attorney, for referral to a good labor lawyer.

    Hendron hinted that he was being retaliated against for taking part in the litigation against ABB, Sweney said. He said Hendron didn't elaborate on problems at work but said employees were being treated unfairly and needed to take legal action to set things right.

    "I sensed a certain disgruntlement on his part," Sweney said.

    Jerry Schlichter of the St. Louis-based Schlichter, Bogard and Denton law firm, which is representing Hendron and the other ABB workers in their lawsuit, declined to discuss his client Thursday during a break in the trial.

    Police searched Hendron's modest, brick home in the middle-class neighborhood. Neighbors said Hendron left behind a wife and teenage son.

  8. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    I've been searching for the details on the "assault weapon" used in this shooting and can't find anything official. What I did find is that burglars have no compassion...

    Who Steals From a Dead Guy? ABB Victim's Home Burglarized
    By Kristen Hinman
    Jan. 13 2010 @ 9:45AM
    As the family of Carlton Carter lays him to rest later today, detectives from the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department will be investigating a break-in at Carter's home.

    Carter, 57, was one of the three ABB Power employees shot dead by Timothy Hendron last week.

    Carter's family left their home on Saturday night for a three-day absence, and returned yesterday morning -- only to discover they'd been fleeced.

    Police say the burglar(s) busted through two back windows of the Carter home on Henner Place, and proceeded to steal a DVD player, a computer, a camera and two watches.

    There were no witnesses, but the investigation is ongoing.
  9. TAT2D

    TAT2D Portland Member

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    Didn't that happen at the home of one of the local, recent murder-suicides? Out in Yamhill or somewhere SW of Portland? Salem, maybe? It's pretty standard fare for thieves to read the obit and marriage sections of the newspaper to look for victims. Heck, I hear they're even following twitter now to listen for people gushing about their weekend-at-the-beach plans.