Question on WWII ... Jap Hunting License

[F2CMaDMaXX]

Please understand that this is an explanation and not a defense of the words being "wrong" so don't bother arguing with me about it

They are considered "wrong" because of the way they were used, as a form of demeaning and dehumanizing a group of people based only on a common trait, in this case a country of origin and in that way they are in fact both like the "N" word

That's it. It isn't a really complex concept and the truth is things can be 'historical' and offensive at the same time

This ^^

Of partial note, those terms are not considered offensive in the UK, so yes, Yank, Jap, Brit etc. This is predominantly because they were not used in a discriminatory way.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Of partial note, those terms are not considered offensive in the UK,

And they have a word that is considered highly offensive over here and for them it is everything from a loving term of endearment to a condemnation of they way some one is behaving, but regardless of how they use it it does not have the same stigma that we apply to it

 

[DunRanull]

Please understand that this is an explanation and not a defense of the words being "wrong" so don't bother arguing with me about it

They are considered "wrong" because of the way they were used, as a form of demeaning and dehumanizing a group of people based only on a common trait, in this case a country of origin and in that way they are in fact both like the "N" word

That's it. It isn't a really complex concept and the truth is things can be 'historical' and offensive at the same time

ETA: A good example of this concept would be the word "Boomer" which started out describing a group of people based on their birthday and recently was transformed into a demeaning term for a group of people out of touch with reality, also based on their birthday

Good point(s), no argument from me. Kinda like being referred to as "Mick"..

 

[Yarome]

Please understand that this is an explanation and not a defense of the words being "wrong" so don't bother arguing with me about it

They are considered "wrong" because of the way they were used, as a form of demeaning and dehumanizing a group of people based only on a common trait, in this case a country of origin and in that way they are in fact both like the "N" word

That's it. It isn't a really complex concept and the truth is things can be 'historical' and offensive at the same time

ETA: A good example of this concept would be the word "Boomer" which started out describing a group of people based on their birthday and recently was transformed into a demeaning term for a group of people out of touch with reality, also based on their birthday

Very well said.

It's simply the intent. Not to offend any American's but there is an incredibly rich history in America of assigning nicknames for other ethnicities/cultures intended as derogatoriness to demean others. Jap, Nip, Chink, Sp*c, Pol, Limey, Mick, N-****, to name a few. Many times accompanied by a profanity such that even when the profanity is absent, the implied "Flocking Jap", "D*mn bubblegum", "Limey B*stard", etc is what people actually "hear".

"Yankee" seems a bit different since it originated in America among it's own people and still, to many, not considered a derogatory even though many countries in history used it that way. I mean.... NY Yankees? You can't go to Japan and watch the Tokyo Nip's playing on baseball night.


Edit: Funny note. Of all those derogatory's, "Sp*c" was the only one the forum filter "bubblegummed".

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

It's simply the intent. . . . is what people actually "hear".

That's about how I would expect a Boomer to see things *

Now, what was my intent when I used the word "Boomer"? Was I acknowledging a generational difference in understand based on changing experiences and insightfulness that mostly come from experience and time, or was I being dismissive and rolling my eyes at how out of touch and clueless a particular generation is?

I'm given to understand that in some tonal based languages you can use the same 'word' but change the tone or inflection to indicate a change in context, but barring that it's unfortunate that humans don't change color or something when our intent changes.

Overall I agree with you, it will be interesting to see (if I live long enough) how the people born in 2030 - 2050 react to the things their Gen Z and Gen Alpha parents do and say




* No Boomers were actually insulted in the making of this post, if you suspect you or a Boomer you love are being victimized by this word you may be entitled to help from Ronnie Johns / harden up
NOTE: Search for that at your own peril, it is NSFW

 

[DunRanull]

I sometimes object to the "boomer" thing because it is being used by gen Xers and Zoomers in a purposely pejorative sense. A pity we ever gave birth to kids who gave birth to gen Xers who gave birth to Zoomers. They are worthless for anything but paying into our social security funds. See how that works?

 

[weimar_police]

People collect the darndest things, but an eBay and google search might show value

 

[DunRanull]

And they have a word that is considered highly offensive over here and for them it is everything from a loving term of endearment to a condemnation of they way some one is behaving, but regardless of how they use it it does not have the same stigma that we apply to it

"That word" is so offensive to my Old Woman that I dassnt say it around her... not if I want my coffee anyways..

 

[Spitpatch]

Most of my friends living nearby are much younger than I am. The "Boomer" thing erupted some time back as I gave a dissertation about "new" and "efficiently designed" cartridges (that are neither).

...and every time I pull their sorry buttocks out of a hunting or shooting conundrum (that would not be one with a bit more experience), I offer the help as a proud card-carrying "Boomer". They're getting sick of it.

Terms of group reference are only offensive if one chooses (or in many cases LOOKS FOR) a reason to be offended.

A proud black sergeant taught me what a ("N-word") is. As a military brat who hung with the black kids on base because I was "weird", I went into the military nearly completely ignorant of any racial conflict (other than what I had read and seen on television).

Sgt Marvin Johnson saw that I was a "babe in the woods", and in a very short time gave me what I needed to operate effectively in regard to racial discord. His hate for the segment of his racial group that, in his words "bring me down" far exceeded that of Southern White Trash that we both served with.

I saw him physically force a young Airman who was "diddy-boppin'" across the day room to "walk like a man!" as Sgt Johnson put it. Made him take the "fro-comb" out of his hair too.

After it was over, Marvin said, "I will not suffer them in my presence."

 

[ma96782]

Wow.....just in time for the end of.......

"Asian American, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander Month"

So.....what's next month?

Aloha, Mark

 

[Yarome]

Wow.....just in time for the end of.......

"Asian American, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander Month"

It's okay. Everyone in the Asian American community knows they were just being "ironic" when they designated May... but no one actually gives a flying poke at a rolling donut about it.

You have to be woke, black, illegal and/or queer to be "relevant" in the U.S..