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I recently had a great educational experience regarding obtaining antibiotics without a prescription. I haven't seen a thread dedicated to actual procurement and thought I'd share. Having a store of antibiotics on hand for times when doctors are unavailable could be a huge benefit and could make the difference between life and death.
NOTE: IF YOU DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOURE DOING WITH ANTIBIOTICS – DON'T ADMINISTER THEM!!! You could kill somebody, or at the very least, breed a resistant strain of bacteria. Confirm any known allergies and respond accordingly. Know the intended usage, how much and how long to take it and what signs might indicate a negative reaction. In short, do ALL your homework ahead of time!
There are several sources available online that provide medications without a doctor's consent. Canadian pharmacies can ship to the U.S. but can be quite expensive. Many of their medications originate from India/Pakistan which I find dubious. Ebay is another source with the same concerns. Shipping times can be delayed and they can still be prohibitively expensive.
That's why I turned to "Fish antibiotics." After a significant amount of research, the providers I looked at have EXACTLY the same medication that your doctor would provide. Not just the same formula. This is the very same medicine and originates from the very same pharmaceutical company. In fact, there's no such thing as a manufacturer of "Fish Antibiotics." Big Pharma simply labels them differently to make a few extra bucks. Here's how to tell:
The company I used is Aquaticpharmacy.com. They are local to Washington State, provide a great deal of information on their site and can deliver in two days. Their prices are about a third of what I found anywhere else as well. (A 100 count bottle of Amoxicillin was just $14.39! Your co-pay is probably more than that!)
1) When ordering online, first look for a picture of the actual pill. The color of the capsule is part of a production code that helps identify and describe its contents. Using the color markings, visit Drugs.com and confirm that the image matches what is listed from the manufacturer. For example, Amoxcillin is listed with the following information: WC 730 WC 730 imprint (amoxicillin 250 mg) - Drugs.com Also visit a second site for more info and to confirm your findings: Amoxicillin Details - The People's Medicine Community
2) Using the information from Drugs.com visit the manufacturer's site and confirm the medication color, markings and intended usage. Also note the "NDC #." Drug products are identified and reported using a unique, three-segment number, called the National Drug Code which serves as a universal product identifier for human drugs. For example, Dava Pharmaceuticals is one of the big Pharma companies and is the manufacturer of the product I ordered. Their website provided the following information which confirms the type and content of the pill: Amoxicillin - DAVA Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
3) Note the markings on the pill and do additional research. The Amoxicillin I ordered was labeled "WC 730." This marking from the pharmaceutical company is a second identifier of the medication. Drugs.com confirms this imprint and clarifies the content of the pill and its intended use. It also confirms whether or not it is human grade.
4) The packaging itself should also have four main identifiers.
a) USP: Any oral medication packaging should be stamped with "USP." USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia. The United States Pharmacopeia is an official public standards–setting authority for all prescription and over–the–counter medicines and other health care products manufactured or sold in the United States. This is the organization that set the standards for pills. This marking assures that the medication has met federally mandated standards and wasn't produced in some back alley.
b) Lot Number: This information can be used to track the actual manufacturing of this particular line. The Lot # follows the production line and confirms when and where the pill was manufactured.
c) Expiration date: Most antibiotics are good for 18-22 months from date of purchase. After this time the pill will begin to degrade and become less effective. Store in a cool, dark place.
d) Your packaging may also be marked as "AB rated." This simply confirms that it is the generic alternative to a name brand.
Once you have confirmed this information, you should feel safe in knowing what you will receive. Be sure to visually inspect the pills when they arrive to assure they match what was ordered.
Before you order, you should know what the different antibiotics are used for and when to take them. Here's a great primer for that purpose: http://www.northwestfirearms.com/pr...iderations-antibiotics-your-personal-kit.html
And lastly:
1: Review the known drug allergies of everyone in your household. Don't stock anything that anyone is allergic to. Especially look at the sulfas & cillins for allergies.
2: Pick very few types of antibiotics to stock. You don't need some of everything on the market. First choice is Keflex (cephalexin) as it has very low side-effects and is a wide-spectrum antibiotic. Do not keep Keflex for more than 1 year beyond the expiration date. It does go bad. Second choice is Augmentin (amoxicillin) for a wide-spectrum. You can take care of most anything that will come up with those two. The others you might consider are Erythromycin and Septra (sulfamethoxazole) as long as there are no sulfa allergies.
3: Print out the entire drug card for each medication from a reputable source such as rxlist.com and keep that info stored with the drug.
4: Keep the bottles with the original seal intact and store in a dry, dark, and cool place. Monitor the expiration dates and replace stock as it expires, though for emergency use many of these drugs can be used beyond the expiration date. I wouldn't suggest pushing the date any further than 1 year as long as it was stored correctly.
For additional research you can start with: <broken link removed>
A great video is available here: Fish Antibiotics in a Collapse by Dr Bones - YouTube
Having said all this, I would still prefer to always be checked by my physician and get his professional recommendation. But for times when he's not available, I'll feel very comfortable following these steps.
NOTE: IF YOU DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOURE DOING WITH ANTIBIOTICS – DON'T ADMINISTER THEM!!! You could kill somebody, or at the very least, breed a resistant strain of bacteria. Confirm any known allergies and respond accordingly. Know the intended usage, how much and how long to take it and what signs might indicate a negative reaction. In short, do ALL your homework ahead of time!
There are several sources available online that provide medications without a doctor's consent. Canadian pharmacies can ship to the U.S. but can be quite expensive. Many of their medications originate from India/Pakistan which I find dubious. Ebay is another source with the same concerns. Shipping times can be delayed and they can still be prohibitively expensive.
That's why I turned to "Fish antibiotics." After a significant amount of research, the providers I looked at have EXACTLY the same medication that your doctor would provide. Not just the same formula. This is the very same medicine and originates from the very same pharmaceutical company. In fact, there's no such thing as a manufacturer of "Fish Antibiotics." Big Pharma simply labels them differently to make a few extra bucks. Here's how to tell:
The company I used is Aquaticpharmacy.com. They are local to Washington State, provide a great deal of information on their site and can deliver in two days. Their prices are about a third of what I found anywhere else as well. (A 100 count bottle of Amoxicillin was just $14.39! Your co-pay is probably more than that!)
1) When ordering online, first look for a picture of the actual pill. The color of the capsule is part of a production code that helps identify and describe its contents. Using the color markings, visit Drugs.com and confirm that the image matches what is listed from the manufacturer. For example, Amoxcillin is listed with the following information: WC 730 WC 730 imprint (amoxicillin 250 mg) - Drugs.com Also visit a second site for more info and to confirm your findings: Amoxicillin Details - The People's Medicine Community
2) Using the information from Drugs.com visit the manufacturer's site and confirm the medication color, markings and intended usage. Also note the "NDC #." Drug products are identified and reported using a unique, three-segment number, called the National Drug Code which serves as a universal product identifier for human drugs. For example, Dava Pharmaceuticals is one of the big Pharma companies and is the manufacturer of the product I ordered. Their website provided the following information which confirms the type and content of the pill: Amoxicillin - DAVA Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
3) Note the markings on the pill and do additional research. The Amoxicillin I ordered was labeled "WC 730." This marking from the pharmaceutical company is a second identifier of the medication. Drugs.com confirms this imprint and clarifies the content of the pill and its intended use. It also confirms whether or not it is human grade.
4) The packaging itself should also have four main identifiers.
a) USP: Any oral medication packaging should be stamped with "USP." USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia. The United States Pharmacopeia is an official public standards–setting authority for all prescription and over–the–counter medicines and other health care products manufactured or sold in the United States. This is the organization that set the standards for pills. This marking assures that the medication has met federally mandated standards and wasn't produced in some back alley.
b) Lot Number: This information can be used to track the actual manufacturing of this particular line. The Lot # follows the production line and confirms when and where the pill was manufactured.
c) Expiration date: Most antibiotics are good for 18-22 months from date of purchase. After this time the pill will begin to degrade and become less effective. Store in a cool, dark place.
d) Your packaging may also be marked as "AB rated." This simply confirms that it is the generic alternative to a name brand.
Once you have confirmed this information, you should feel safe in knowing what you will receive. Be sure to visually inspect the pills when they arrive to assure they match what was ordered.
Before you order, you should know what the different antibiotics are used for and when to take them. Here's a great primer for that purpose: http://www.northwestfirearms.com/pr...iderations-antibiotics-your-personal-kit.html
And lastly:
1: Review the known drug allergies of everyone in your household. Don't stock anything that anyone is allergic to. Especially look at the sulfas & cillins for allergies.
2: Pick very few types of antibiotics to stock. You don't need some of everything on the market. First choice is Keflex (cephalexin) as it has very low side-effects and is a wide-spectrum antibiotic. Do not keep Keflex for more than 1 year beyond the expiration date. It does go bad. Second choice is Augmentin (amoxicillin) for a wide-spectrum. You can take care of most anything that will come up with those two. The others you might consider are Erythromycin and Septra (sulfamethoxazole) as long as there are no sulfa allergies.
3: Print out the entire drug card for each medication from a reputable source such as rxlist.com and keep that info stored with the drug.
4: Keep the bottles with the original seal intact and store in a dry, dark, and cool place. Monitor the expiration dates and replace stock as it expires, though for emergency use many of these drugs can be used beyond the expiration date. I wouldn't suggest pushing the date any further than 1 year as long as it was stored correctly.
For additional research you can start with: <broken link removed>
A great video is available here: Fish Antibiotics in a Collapse by Dr Bones - YouTube
Having said all this, I would still prefer to always be checked by my physician and get his professional recommendation. But for times when he's not available, I'll feel very comfortable following these steps.
