Thread: Gas piston ar15 worth the extra money?

Yeah ... I am sure it is just a matter of time before we see milspec GP systems.
I'll bet they go for the lightest most reliable and simplest contender and keep the barrel under 18.5"

If you shoot suppressed, Yes.

Picked up a stag model 8L love it!!

People are trying to turn the AR into the AK with the piston system. They are two different systems designed for two different missions. It isn't worth the time and money. If you want an AK buy and AK. For me, I love all AR's. I would rather hit my target with one small (yet just as deadly) bullet than spray 30 around it.

P.S. If you can't keep your gun clean maybe you should be using something less sophisticated e.g. a rock.

Originally Posted by Gunnar

People are trying to turn the AR into the AK with the piston system. They are two different systems designed for two different missions. It isn't worth the time and money. If you want an AK buy and AK. For me, I love all AR's. I would rather hit my target with one small (yet just as deadly) bullet than spray 30 around it.

P.S. If you can't keep your gun clean maybe you should be using something less sophisticated e.g. a rock.

I think people are always trying to improve on design. Design and caliber rises to the top via innovation and practical function.

Personally I am fine with the AR. However I would rather see a "6.8ppc with a brute simple long stroke piston like the Daewoo" adopted by the US and at least 4 other militaries
with tons of ammo drifting downward cheaply to us citizens.

Seems like it would be a simple enough evolution. (Though the 7.62x39 versions of the Daewoo did run into some problems)

The 6.8 can do cqb and snipe out to 1000 meters depending on design and barrel.

With no buffer tube ... it could really be shortened up and rock in cqb.

As an engineer I fully understand and support improvements in design, but consider this the AR-15/M16/M4 is one of the two most prolific guns in history. I've seen worked over AR's that can that can accurately reach out and touch someone as far as the 5.56 cartridge is capable. you must also consider that most AR's are production guns with the inherent flaws of production tolerances. The point is that built correctly, the gun is perfect for what it is the way it is.

I vote for a team of crack engineers and a small army of field experienced testers to design the next generation as I see the majority of next gen assault rifles just being an M4 with a piston.

As a side note, I don't buy Korea cars or guns.

Originally Posted by DoubleTapDrew

Thank you for the pics of the Daewoo, very neat. The piston & spring designs definitely remind me of an AK, just mated to an AR bolt carrier.

Yeah ... pretty neat how they mated them together. Simple and solid.