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    Shipping container what else and how?

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    fallout of what?

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    I respect your right to build whatever you want for any possible event, but I'd be most interested in a shelter for solar electromagnet radiation - short term - days or short weeks. Anything that would require me living underground in a shipping container for a year+, no thanks.

    I don't see nukes in my future, (TPTB want a clean Earth for themselves), but NASA was very vocal about us seeing serious solar flares in 2012 - (back in 2005/06). Plus events like these have happened before. So many damn things that COULD happen in the next few months or years it is hard to pick LOL. I see it as gambling. What are the odds, the costs, the benefits, etc. As for living in fear, no thanks. If my time is up, it is up, BFD. NASA UPGRADES 2012 SOLAR STORM WARNING - LEARN HOW TO PREPARE
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    Good gods! My eyes are suffering from extensive colour radiation damage now. Someone needs to learn proper page formatting and colour matching. Yeesh.

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    What can you use to make a cheap fallout shelter?

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    A shovel.
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    a shovel a pick and a couple of volunteers

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    A rented bobcat, about 12 feet (20 feet for 2 stacked containers) deep of digging (with entry ramp for the semi carrying the containers) some old railroad rails for reinforcement on the sides and top, either a 4ft wide pipe for a vertical entry or an 8ft pipe for a diagonal entry, a rented plasma cutter, oh, and don't forget some air vents, usually a distance away from the dig site and concealed and sealed from weather and forced entry.
    ...if you actually needed a shelter that is.

    Don't forget the disaster-specific accessories:
    Nuclear: sheets of lead 1mm-1/4in thick, depends on distance to ground zero (don't forget the NBC filters on the air vents.)
    EMP: copper or brass mesh, as small as possible, and a grounding rod (be sure to not let it touch the metal of the containers or it's useless)
    Earthquake: ..well, might be screwed, depends on how close it is.
    Flood: ..grow some gills.
    Upheaval: ..just hide for a while, see who wins.
    Or, just practice bending far enough to just kiss your own butt goodbye.
    If you're gonna be serious about a shelter, be serious, get an engineer or a contractor, put a burn-the-blueprints clause in if you're paranoid, put down the stacks of cash, and get to work. Otherwise, start digging a hole. 'cause a magic fortress ain't gonna just show up. I would be, but I don't have the money or property for it.

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    Well a couple friends of mine bought starter homes years ago, the houses were built in the 50's or early 60's.

    The person who owned them during that tiime, had first they reinforced the structure by putting in extra cross beam and then extra support beams. Thne took a section and put in form, conduit for wiring and poured concrete. Walls had rebarb and were 8 to 10 inches thick. The room was 8 feet wide by 20 feet long. The door was a heavy metal on 4 hinges.

    My buddy kept a set of cots, in there and few other items, the problem was the room was very humid and had a sump pump that ran all the time.

    Which brings me to good point, make sure the place you choose is not a high water table, or install really good drainage around what you build above and below ground.

    Another friend hada similar house with really drainage and his sump pump hardly ever ran, even durea heavy rain season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnails View Post
    What can you use to make a cheap fallout shelter?

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    A shovel.
    I was was wanting to say dirt, then fought off the urge to be a smartass........for a second LOL.

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    i worry more about emp or solar storms too.we have always had these but we have never relyed so much on technology before and if our infastructure gets knocked out my daughters wont be able to go on facebook so to them the world will be over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubletap007 View Post
    i worry more about emp or solar storms too.we have always had these but we have never relyed so much on technology before and if our infastructure gets knocked out my daughters wont be able to go on facebook so to them the world will be over.
    Trust me,if they don't have Facebook,your world might end too.

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    Large amount of AL Foil and a nice marinade

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    IIRC it only takes something like 6" soil or 1/4" lead to block radiation......if you bury the shipping container, you're sheltered from radiation. Now unless you're only planning on using it for a very short term like to survive an initial blast,etc....got to figure out how to filter air flow, supply clean water, and carry away waste to a safe distance? Lighting that doesn't use up your oxygen might be nice too in a little dark hole, but you could sleep a lot i guess.

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    a '63 Mercury Station Wagon.
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    2 sticks and a tarp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubletap007 View Post
    i worry more about emp or solar storms too.we have always had these but we have never relyed so much on technology before and if our infastructure gets knocked out my daughters wont be able to go on facebook so to them the world will be over.
    Ashton Kutcher might be a twit, but he said the exact same thing. He runs everyday and trains in Israeli martial arts. Has said that in a SHTF scenario that the greatest panic will come from the twittering twits not being able to access their social networking.
    "Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong." - Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noisycow View Post
    Ashton Kutcher might be a twit, but he said the exact same thing. He runs everyday and trains in Israeli martial arts. Has said that in a SHTF scenario that the greatest panic will come from the twittering twits not being able to access their social networking.
    Sadly, that's true the more I think about it. The panicked masses might be more dangerous than any explosion or power outage.

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