Thread: why am i so obsessed with sbr's

so, i really want an sbr. i'm in washington so i can't have one however i've been thinking about it and.. well it's kind of silly. i only want want one for cool factor and really if i lived in a state that allowed it i'd get maybe a 12.5 inch barrel and a flash hider call it 13.5 maybe 14. so what a rifle two inches shorter than what i can currently get. just feel silly that 2 inches matter's that much (insert puns about size here haha) anyway just a random rant.

I heard ruby ridge was over 2 inches. Just shows how ridiculous gun control is.

Why are you obsessed? Probably the same reason I'm obsessed, they rock. If you ever make it down this way, I'll let you pop off some rounds after I get my stamp for my 300blk sbr.

I'd join Ranb and work toward making new sbs's and sbr's legal in WA. Help the cause, mine data, then contact your your reps and senators in the state legislature and urge them to back legislation. I'd help but I'm not one of their constituents and they'd most likely ignore a hungry grad student from OR.

My solution to avoid the $200 stamp and other restrictions is to buy a 14.5" and permanently attach a flash hider to bring it to a legal 16".

Originally Posted by skydiver

My solution to avoid the $200 stamp and other restrictions is to buy a 14.5" and permanently attach a flash hider to bring it to a legal 16".

I dont understand. So you built a rifle yet the OP is talking about SBR. You still have a 16" length...........

Originally Posted by Nwcid

So you built a rifle

Rifle??...it's a carbine.
A standard 16" carbine plus a flash hider is 18.5"
Doing it my way saves him inches without a SBR tax stamp and is what the OP needs...legal in Washinton!

Its another tax,..Welcome to the communist republic of washington

Originally Posted by skydiver

Rifle??...it's a carbine.
A standard 16" carbine plus a flash hider is 18.5"
Doing it my way saves him inches without a SBR tax stamp and is what the OP needs...legal in Washinton!

Fine, carbine by popular terms rifle (long gun) by legal terms. ATF recognizes Long gun, Handgun, Receiver, SBR, SBS, MG, AOW, DD and Silencer

I understand the OP wants an SBR and I understand they are not legal here or the ATF would easily be into me for another $2000.

You are right though, going pinned does save an inch.

Originally Posted by oldbrass

Its another tax,..Welcome to the communist republic of washington

What does the NFA and transfer tax have to do with Washington state tax?

Originally Posted by skydiver

My solution to avoid the $200 stamp and other restrictions is to buy a 14.5" and permanently attach a flash hider to bring it to a legal 16".

Yup, And you don't have to get permission to take it across state lines.

Your obsessed becuase they are F- - -ing cool. I cannot wait for my papers to come back so I can turn my AR pistol into a SBR. It will be my blacktail and close coyote gun after that!!

so why cant you have an 11"barrel and put a 5"flash hider in it,then when your out playing with it take off the hider?

Originally Posted by doubletap007

so why cant you have an 11"barrel and put a 5"flash hider in it,then when your out playing with it take off the hider?

You can if you have a registered SBR.

Length is measured from the bolt face to the end of any PERMANENTLY attached part.

I am seriously considering permanently attaching my can to a 10" barrel for a WA legal 16" suppressed AR.
I also want an SBR so bad I can frackin' taste it. I hope the lawmakers can see how foolish it is banning them.

Originally Posted by SheepDog223

Yup, And you don't have to get permission to take it across state lines.

You don't get permission, you inform them. Most guys don't bother.

Originally Posted by doubletap007

so why cant you have an 11"barrel and put a 5"flash hider in it,then when your out playing with it take off the hider?

You can if its a SBR....
Or if its not you just want to get arrested and spend way more than the $200 transferr fee ofr a lawyer

Originally Posted by aj82

so, i really want an sbr. i'm in washington so i can't have one however.....

I feel your pain. How do your legislators feel about the issue? My Senator (Sheldon) voted for the ban back in 1994, but he has promised me to support the bill if it reaches the Senate; I believe him. One of my Reps (Finn) is a co-sponsor of bill 2099 and Kathy Haigh is likely to support it too as she co-sponsored the silencer bill.

Call your legislators and explain why you want to own an SBR. The kind of support you need from them is a promise to tell the Judiciary committee hciarman (Pedersen) that the bill is a priority and needs a hearing. If they waffle on the matter, ask them for an appointment to talk about it in person.

I am in Belfair only about 55 miles from you. I can go with you if you like. Meeting them is all about getting an appointment, after that it is simply a matter of them seeing that you are not some sort of asshat who wants badass guns. Educating them on guns is easy. We can show them that only the nicest people in town will own an SBR is state law is brought into line with federal law.

Attending committee hearings is a simple matter too. Ask nubus. Remember is you do not speak out, some Brady hugger anti-gun zealot is going to do it for you.

Randy Bragge
360 440-5889

My idea of the SBR/SBS I will make when bill 2099 passes are as follows.

TC contender with various barrels from four inches to fourteen inches long; from 22lr to 44 magnum
AR-15 with barrels from nine inches to fourteen inches long and 17HMR to 50 caliber
Mossberg 500 with barrels seven inches to fourteen inches long and in 20 and 12 gauges.

A rifle with any length barrel beats a handgun with the same barrel every time, unless you need to stuff it down your pants.

Ranb

Originally Posted by nubus

I am seriously considering permanently attaching my can to a 10" barrel for a WA legal 16" suppressed AR.
I also want an SBR so bad I can frackin' taste it. I hope the lawmakers can see how foolish it is banning them.

It seems like someone on here did that with a GSG and a Thompson Machine suppressor.

Originally Posted by cyclesarge

It seems like someone on here did that with a GSG and a Thompson Machine suppressor.

Ranb did I believe.

I have an integral 9mm AR,