Thread: Answering door with gun in hand

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985

I hate to burst your bubble but it probably will. For one thing it was in our own home when we did it, the most either of us could of done at the time was pistol whip since neither gun was loaded, let alone chambered, nobody called the police because nobody cared, and it happened years ago.

Reads just like one of them news reports right after someones head gets blown off.

In the State of Oregon it is against the law to point a firearm at another human for reasons other then self defense.

Originally Posted by Mark W.

Reads just like one of them news reports right after someones head gets blown off.

In the State of Oregon it is against the law to point a firearm at another human for reasons other then self defense.

Agreed. There is only one thing worse than someone violating a gun safety rule, and that is the justification for it and the repeated violation of it.

Darwin will catch up to Jimmy, hopefully before he hurts or kills someone other than himself.

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985

Well the question was about answering the door with a gun in hand, those are the only 2x Ive experienced it, but it was as a joke. Obviously you fail to see any humor in it, but at the time it was pretty funny between the both of us.

First of all, I wouldn't point a gun at anyone, nor was I pulling the trigger repeatedly when I answered the door, or my brother. No one was at any danger at any time, asides that one time which was an inside joke between me and my brother and not people who weren't related to us or weren't in on the joke, pretty much I follow all NRA safety rules when it comes to gun ownership. Except for trigger locks.

If I go outside, I keep the gun in a case so it doesn't freak the neighbors out, I always make sure to see if its loaded, I keep the ammunition in a separate place than the gun, etc. etc. We got no kids in the house, so we don't have to worry about our guns falling into the wrong hands, we have a gun safe thats bolted to the floor. I don't put my finger in the trigger guard when I get the gun out (unless Im using the laser sights which pretty much requires it)

No we haven't had any planned pregnancies yet so no kids.

So why did you bother to tell "people who weren't related to you"? Did you honestly think you wouldn't get FLAMED on a GUN forum for something so SpEd? I guess I would have found humor in it if you had ripped the pistol out of his hand and beat him nearly to death with it. That would have been funny, and the proper thing to do in that situation, I believe.
Back to the OP, we have a shotgun beside the door where the kids can't get it. Where we live, someone walking up the driveway usually gets met before they get to the house unless their invited and we have motion lights all over (BTW, I HATE f'ing deer! Four-legged, cloven-hooved spawn of Satan)

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

Waco and Ruby Ridge had a reverse effect of causing millions to arm up and quietly loosely organize out of rightful fear of the federal beast

Unintended consequences

Perhaps an intended consequence: ATF's budget was doubled afterwards, so they (and the FBI) could fight "domestic terrorists". Waco (and the media bashing of the Aryan groups) was also used to vilify (sp?) "militias".

Originally Posted by MikeSettles

Perhaps an intended consequence: ATF's budget was doubled afterwards, so they (and the FBI) could fight "domestic terrorists". Waco (and the media bashing of the Aryan groups) was also used to vilify (sp?) "militias".

True but what is coming is going to be pee in their cornflakes

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985

I hate to burst your bubble but it probably will. For one thing it was in our own home when we did it, the most either of us could of done at the time was pistol whip since neither gun was loaded, let alone chambered, nobody called the police because nobody cared, and it happened years ago.

All guns are always loaded, dumb @$$

Please go away, you make all gun owners look like you, which is to say like $#1T

Originally Posted by iusmc2002

So why did you bother to tell "people who weren't related to you"? Did you honestly think you wouldn't get FLAMED on a GUN forum for something so SpEd? I guess I would have found humor in it if you had ripped the pistol out of his hand and beat him nearly to death with it. That would have been funny, and the proper thing to do in that situation, I believe.
Back to the OP, we have a shotgun beside the door where the kids can't get it. Where we live, someone walking up the driveway usually gets met before they get to the house unless their invited and we have motion lights all over (BTW, I HATE f'ing deer! Four-legged, cloven-hooved spawn of Satan)

If he had unloaded it first, yes

Deer have savaged and even killed a lot of people, especially stupid people like Jimmy. They are not to be trifled with

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

If he had unloaded it first, yes

Deer have savaged and even killed a lot of people, especially stupid people like Jimmy. They are not to be trifled with

So how do you unload a deer?

Originally Posted by the4thshake

If there is a bad guy knocking on your door, don't open it.

This. Your lock may not give you much time, but it gives you SOME time to react. If you already think someone is suspicious there is no reason not to talk to them through the door.

If you feel you just have to open the door, the gun in your hand behind your back should be sufficient to hide it. Blatantly holding it in your hand is pretty threatening behavior to almost everyone. If I'd come knocking asking you to call a tow truck or something, I'd see the gun and say "never mind" and go away. -Slowly, backing up. I think an awful lot of people would call the cops.

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985

I hate to burst your bubble but it probably will. For one thing it was in our own home when we did it, the most either of us could of done at the time was pistol whip since neither gun was loaded, let alone chambered, nobody called the police because nobody cared, and it happened years ago.

You're right. I mean no one EVER accidentally shoots someone with a gun they were sure was unloaded. Rule#1: "Always point the gun in a safe direction." You were idiots to do it. You're still an idiot to defend it.

Yes, I believe you should always be armed when answering the door. Even when you are armed, like this man was, you are still at risk. Strategies need to be worked out ahead of time. Douglas Burgess Jr. of Greer died in shootout with woman who attempted to rob him | GoUpstate.com

Who opens the door to potential threats? I have a video intercom and 16 gauge steel door in a steel frame. No need to carry a gun to the door because I know exactly who is outside, and they can't see me.

Why bother securing your house at all if you have a front door with glass panels in or near it? You may as well just leave the door open.

Keep the gun in a holster. If its not in a holster its considered brandishing and may be pushed to assault. Yes the laws are stupid and I don't always agree with them but thats what you have to do. One of the more stupid laws is, I am allowed to carry a pistol in Washington but not my Auto's.

Originally Posted by chase

Keep the gun in a holster. If its not in a holster its considered brandishing and may be pushed to assault. Yes the laws are stupid and I don't always agree with them but thats what you have to do. One of the more stupid laws is, I am allowed to carry a pistol in Washington but not my Auto's.

it's not brandishing if you keep it behind your back

Originally Posted by 8ball

Why bother securing your house at all if you have a front door with glass panels in or near it? You may as well just leave the door open.

THANK YOU!

I once was in charge of providing security for several businesses as a "verified responder"...made sure the doors were locked and check on alarms. A new company in a sh*tty neighborhood had this huge rock outside their door to prop the door open during business hours. Full glass door. I pointed out the rock to my manager who then told me to go f- myself because they weren't going to upset their customers with my concerns.

Well go fricken figure if that rock didn't majically find it's way inside the building before business hours. Guess who gets blamed? The security company. BAH! Morons. At least put some shades on the windows if you're going to keep thousands of dollars worth of equipment behind a glass window and a rock outside.

Security practices and what I call the "enemy mindset" (thinking like the bad guy) is hard to teach people whom have never had to defend themselves from violence (personally) and have lived under the constant protection of the "police state". Many people would rather just live in oblivion- blaming other people for their problems and relaying on other people to fix them.

Originally Posted by iusmc2002

So how do you unload a deer?

Give them beer?

Originally Posted by 8ball

Who opens the door to potential threats? I have a video intercom and 16 gauge steel door in a steel frame. No need to carry a gun to the door because I know exactly who is outside, and they can't see me.

Why bother securing your house at all if you have a front door with glass panels in or near it? You may as well just leave the door open.

I have a glass window next to the door but also a re-enforced steel door like yours properly mounted and a key only deadbolt.. the window is double pane glass and the entire thing would have to be shattered out for a man to get through. If we were going to stay here any longer I would upgrade it all but I'm about to build our dream home soon so I haven't bothered. Besides we have two Rottweilers here + two well armed adults and I don't think most criminals want that sort of trouble

Originally Posted by Riot

THANK YOU!

I once was in charge of providing security for several businesses as a "verified responder"...made sure the doors were locked and check on alarms. A new company in a sh*tty neighborhood had this huge rock outside their door to prop the door open during business hours. Full glass door. I pointed out the rock to my manager who then told me to go f- myself because they weren't going to upset their customers with my concerns.

Well go fricken figure if that rock didn't majically find it's way inside the building before business hours. Guess who gets blamed? The security company. BAH! Morons. At least put some shades on the windows if you're going to keep thousands of dollars worth of equipment behind a glass window and a rock outside.

Security practices and what I call the "enemy mindset" (thinking like the bad guy) is hard to teach people whom have never had to defend themselves from violence (personally) and have lived under the constant protection of the "police state". Many people would rather just live in oblivion- blaming other people for their problems and relaying on other people to fix them.

The rock was dumb but criminals can find a way without it. I am a block watch captain and I HATE gangs and they have been tagging some local signs, business, etc and I remove it immediately. They decided to retaliate on several businesses so they uprooted small street signs and used them as rams to shatter some windows. ironically one was a glass company

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985

I follow all NRA safety rules when it comes to gun ownership.

NRA GUN SAFETY RULES

RULE NUMBER 1.

ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Jimmy, as a certified "NRA Range Safety Officer" (and as a human being), your "joke", made me sick to my stomach!

Please take some firearms training classes, or get rid of your firearms!

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

The rock was dumb but criminals can find a way without it.

True, but you take away the opportunity it makes it harder. You can never make yourself fully impossible to criminals, you can only make it harder for them. You are either a hard target or a soft target...criminals target soft targets.

I am a block watch captain and I HATE gangs and they have been tagging some local signs, business, etc and I remove it immediately.

Bug spray with a high DEET content works great.

They decided to retaliate on several businesses so they uprooted small street signs and used them as rams to shatter some windows.

Very intuitive for your typical gang. This a new problem or a growing one?