Thread: Gun violence unlikely to change federal laws

Can someone please explain what this news (??) story is trying to accomplish? Other than give good old Norm some press. More gun control laws is the initial headline; but in the story everyone seems to agree that no law could have prevented the killing.

Local News | Gun violence unlikely to change federal laws | Seattle Times Newspaper

I have read it twice and I can not what the point of the story is.

Ed

Well, it's certainly not as biased as a lot of them are, but they could have left off the closing paragraph or left off the reference to guns, "violence" alone would have been better.

I like how they list part

While homicide statistics vary each year, the FBI said 12,996 Americans were murdered in 2010, the most recent year for which statistics are available. Of those, more than two-thirds — or 8,775 — were killed by guns, according to the FBI.

But they don't list how violent crime is actually down 6% (2010 statistics vs 2009 according to the FBI). So they toss out these big numbers, why don't they mention that 631,636 died from heart disease in 2006 (sorry couldn't quickly find 2010 numbers)? Isn't the fact that 97% more people die from that Big Mac & Fries make you want to stop eating them? Sure we get public out cry about it, but if you want to stop senseless death, start where you get a heck of a lot more bang for your buck... So to speak... Or what about cancer? Or ...


CDC's website states (2007 data):
FASTSTATS - Deaths and Mortality
Heart disease: 616,067
Cancer: 562,875
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 123,706
Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
Diabetes: 71,382
Influenza and Pneumonia: 52,717
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 46,448
Septicemia: 34,828

In closing, yes, people die. Yes, people die for no good reason. Yes, it is horrible! But put in in prospective please...

how about....drunk driving unlikely to cause ban on cars?
stabbings unlikely to cause ban on kitchen cutlery?
drug over doses unlikley to cause ban on serenges?
ax murder unlikely to cause ban on axes?
car accident while texting unlikely to cause ban on cell phones?
when will they stop trying to blame a piece of metal for a society that has no moral values?

Originally Posted by Morpheus

I like how they list part


But they don't list how violent crime is actually down 6% (2010 statistics vs 2009 according to the FBI). So they toss out these big numbers, why don't they mention that 631,636 died from heart disease in 2006 (sorry couldn't quickly find 2010 numbers)? Isn't the fact that 97% more people die from that Big Mac & Fries make you want to stop eating them? Sure we get public out cry about it, but if you want to stop senseless death, start where you get a heck of a lot more bang for your buck... So to speak... Or what about cancer? Or ...


CDC's website states (2007 data):
FASTSTATS - Deaths and Mortality
Heart disease: 616,067
Cancer: 562,875
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 123,706
Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
Diabetes: 71,382
Influenza and Pneumonia: 52,717
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 46,448
Septicemia: 34,828

In closing, yes, people die. Yes, people die for no good reason. Yes, it is horrible! But put in in prospective please...

How about doctor and hospital mistakes:

Deaths from avoidable medical error more than double in past decade, investigation shows

"The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States"

From: Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US - Health Supreme

"Of the total 323,993 deaths among Medicare patients in those years who developed one or more patient-safety incidents, 263,864, or 81 percent, of these deaths were directly attributable to the incident(s)."

From: In Hospital Deaths from Medical Errors at 195,000 per Year USA

"In 2003 there were 6,328,000 car accidents in the US. There were 2.9 million injuries and 42,643 people were killed in auto accidents."

From: How many deaths are caused by car accidents a year

"In the U.S. for 2006, there were 30,896 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 16,883; Homicide 12,791; Accident 642; Legal Intervention 360; Undetermined 220."

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