S-1867/NDAA changes in 2012

**darkminstrel** · 11-28-2011, 01:56 PM

I was pointed to this info by my wife and I just can't imagine that it's real. My brain won't wrap around that the senate would actually sanction detention procedures against US citizens this way. Though I don't like the source Infowars does have a good bit of info on it.

» S.1867: The hunting of America expands Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Thoughts?

**Felt Lizard** · 11-28-2011, 03:04 PM

The undernet is lit up about it today. You won't find the story on many mainstream media sites due to complicity.

**darkminstrel** · 11-28-2011, 04:29 PM

I was wondering about that. There's a ton of conjecture flying around like bees on honey.

**Felt Lizard** · 11-28-2011, 06:06 PM

Not conjecture.

Real.

**novamind** · 11-29-2011, 10:22 PM

Its a sad day for America. Unbelievable Senate Actions.

**Felt Lizard** · 11-30-2011, 09:34 AM

Agreed.

White House is threatening a veto. This may only be talk though. If he signs it, it's a done deal.

Few are aware of this story.

Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely, White House Threatens Veto

**novamind** · 11-30-2011, 11:02 PM

So just what makes a terrorist? It appears that a Protester is considered a Terrorist. More in this link below.

DoD Training Manual: Protests are "Low-Level Terrorism" - Dennis Loo - Open Salon

**biggie24420** · 12-01-2011, 02:11 AM

This is a mafia government...... you call it Democrats and Republicans, I call it the Gambinos and Bonannos. The men in uniform and face masks can come to your door in the middle of the night and take you away for good at any time once this thing is in full effect. The odds of anyone coming to my place to take me away is pretty slim but as long as there is a chance..... I don't like it at all. America as we knew it is DEAD! anything and everything you say on line is monitored and recorded so..... for those of you who have not seen the movie 1984.... go on YouTube and watch it. And they wanna take your guns away so you don't have a fighting chance for when they come a knocking. IMHO there is nothing wrong with infowars.com

**MinnesotaORnewbie** · 12-01-2011, 06:56 AM

Well, I didn't have 8 hours to read all of this draft, took 10 minutes just to scroll through the titles on the outline. Saw everything from issueing medals to military employees to use of missles. So What Part or Title of which section are you talking about? The story it self only states the authors personal opionions. Kind of seems like a personal sway article to me.

**Felt Lizard** · 12-01-2011, 08:50 AM

Veto or not, Congress has shown their hand. The majority of them have no problem supporting a plan that would lock away citizens, with no regard for the 4th, 5th, 6th or 8th amendments or Miranda rights.

They've made it clear where they stand.

**Sasquatchvnv** · 12-01-2011, 10:05 AM

http://theintelhub.com/2011/11/30/do...e-patriot-act/

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.co...l-defense.html

http://www.rense.com/general95/battle.htm

Sherrie Questioning All: SENATE discussing U.S. Citizen Detaining Policy on CSPAN RIGHT NOW! Updating as who speaks

U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets admits Obama national security lawyers - 12160

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers-...154313473.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1435/...SplittedPage=4

Welcome to battlefield earth... Seriously - you didn't see this coming? Way past time for you to brush up on your history https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...i/Enabling_act

**RB87** · 12-01-2011, 03:07 PM

Some good commentary on this:

The Volokh Conspiracy » Defense bill will allow President to indefinitely detain American citizens

**timac** · 12-01-2011, 04:14 PM

Washington Senators, Murray and Cantwell voted for this bill.

**drew** · 12-01-2011, 06:38 PM

Did anyone think our government would stop eroding the Bill of Rights under the guise of preventing terror and protecting the country?

**CommandoJoe** · 12-04-2011, 02:40 AM

Two of the nine "Nay" votes were Oregon's Senators...

**Trlsmn** · 12-04-2011, 09:53 PM

Nothing in this bill allows detaining American citizens. This is being hyped and propagandized.

**novamind** · 12-06-2011, 12:56 PM

S-1867 for Dummies

Senate Bill 1867 | Cancer Truth

Lone Star Watchdog: Do Not Let Our US Senators Who Voted for S1867 Return Home With Honor

**novamind** · 12-06-2011, 01:13 PM

This is how it starts.

An exigent judiciary: Nothing supreme about Indiana

**biggie24420** · 12-06-2011, 03:05 PM

IMHO only the sheep in here think that people are making a big deal about this whole thing.... I am not gonna single anyone out but I feel bad for you.