Thread: Gifting to family members across state lines? Oregon/Washington

I searched the forums, and called a dealer.
(grumpy old men, one day I hope to stand tall in your ranks)

Here's the question.
I live in Oregon, my father in Washington

Can I gift a handgun to my father, without paperwork?

Totally willing to do the paperwork, just I hate the stuff.

FFL's please comment.

Thank you.

You can't transfer ownership but can loan it to him. The only way I'm aware that it's legal to avoid an FFL for a transfer if a gift is if it is inherited after a death.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...ensed-transfer

Yep, takes a WA FFL to legally transfer the handgun, then they will add the sales/use tax to it even though it's a gift. They will have to get a book value on the handgun and use it. A bill of sale for $1.00 won't work anymore.

But you might find one that doesn't follow the law and will not charge the tax.

I would just take YOUR gun up to his house and leave YOUR gun there on loan to him.......

Here is the appropriate text from the link above, "A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.".

Originally Posted by deen_ad

Yep, takes a WA FFL to legally transfer the handgun, then they will add the sales/use tax to it even though it's a gift. They will have to get a book value on the handgun and use it. A bill of sale for $1.00 won't work anymore.

But you might find one that doesn't follow the law and will not charge the tax.

They are still out there.

Originally Posted by Nwcid

I would just take YOUR gun up to his house and leave YOUR gun there on loan to him.......

Here is the appropriate text from the link above, "A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.".

That's what I'd do too, although I'd bet that the state defines how long "temporary" lasts.

Thanks all, looks like i need to find someone up in seattle for transfer.

Originally Posted by PDXSparky

That's what I'd do too, although I'd bet that the state defines how long "temporary" lasts.

How are they going to prove how long you had it? The is NO registration in most states, none in our area.

I don't know about you guys, but I wanna know what kinda firearms pops is getting lol. Well you don't have to share but I just figured I ask :-)

Originally Posted by michaels

Thanks all, looks like i need to find someone up in seattle for transfer.

Nah, not so much.

Originally Posted by Nwcid

How are they going to prove how long you had it? The is NO registration in most states, none in our area.

I agree, it would be pretty difficult for the state to prove an unbroken duration of the "temporary" loan, but that wouldn't keep lawmakers from trying to define how long the loan could be for.

There is no time limit on a "loan" of a firearm either fed or WA. It is a temporary loan, I would expect you would outlive your father, and inherit the handgun back anyway. No? I had all but one of my fathers guns "on loan" until he died...about 35 years...they were his guns, and if he wanted them back all he needed to do was ask. When he died, they all became mine, even the one he kept.

The feds have removed the restriction (2010) for interstate long gun transfers FTF, but they haven't changed the rules on handguns "Yet". Anyway, Just loan the weapon to you dad. Seattle does not need your tax money to waste.

This was asked a few weeks back.Maybe not with these two states though.

I said if your dad would be CC the handgun then you might want to transfer it.Just in case he does have to shoot some SOB.
But if dad is going to target shoot and use the thing for hunting,I would drop it of at the house and not look back.

I mean Dad aint looken to make some extra money with it is he?

Originally Posted by Redcap

They are still out there.

And they WILL get caught. Mike at Brightwater did a few years ago. Had to pay the tax owed out of his pocket except for a few that paid him back.

Several years ago my Dad gave me his Dad's Winchester Model 1894 while I was out visiting my folks in Wyoming. Did I break a law by bringing it back with me?