Thread: Armed Citizen Militia show up at Occupy Phoenix

Armed citizen militia group US Border Guard is making its presence felt at the Occupy Phoenix demonstration to protect free speech rights, arguing that the second amendment prevents the state from abusing the first amendment.

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Ahh good ole Jason Todd Ready, another fat pig playing dress-up, just the kind of guy I wanna hang with....

Yup, and the pork-pie in the video is a dog to say the least. He is also a coward, an admitted Socialist and Nazi, petty criminal, and someone I would NEVER describe as a vet as he was court-martialed more than once and kicked out of the Marines after spending more time in confinement than he did actively serving.

All they need now is a midget and a bearded fat lady.

Originally Posted by saxon

Ahh good ole Jason Todd Ready, another fat pig playing dress-up, just the kind of guy I wanna hang with....

Anyone walking around with a Hitler banner is just asking to get their butt kicked and I would like to start that line.
Same goes for people with Lenin or Stalin banners.

He kinda reminds me of this fella...

Originally Posted by Grunwald

Anyone walking around with a Hitler banner is just asking to get their butt kicked and I would like to start that line.
Same goes for people with Lenin or Stalin banners.

Can we be friends?

Does blubber act as a natural armor?

Hate the messenger all you want, but the message rings true.

"The second amendment protects the first."

Originally Posted by wakejoe

Hate the messenger all you want, but the message rings true.

"The second amendment protects the first."

I don't know much of anything about this guy but I pretty much agreed with what he had to say in this clip.

Originally Posted by locobob

I don't know much of anything about this guy but I pretty much agreed with what he had to say in this clip.

Yep!

Originally Posted by wakejoe

Hate the messenger all you want, but the message rings true.

"The second amendment protects the first."

Unfortunately that isn't true in this case. The messenger is doing harm to the message. If would be like Jeffery Dalmer as the spokesman for vegans at a PETA rally.

Originally Posted by wakejoe

Hate the messenger all you want, but the message rings true.

"The second amendment protects the first."

Unfortunately when a messenger presents himself in such a manner I do not honor him by giving him any attention.

Originally Posted by Trlsmn

Unfortunately that isn't true in this case. The messenger is doing harm to the message. If would be like Jeffery Dalmer as the spokesman for vegans at a PETA rally.

You make a good point... he is probably not helping the overall image of the protest. On the other hand I find it kind of heartening to see such radically different groups showing mutual respect for each others constitutional rights. Hmmm odd isnt it....

Not knowing the guy - his words sound right, but the methods/actions and his presences, dressed the way they are dressed, provides more of a threat. There by the majority of citizens that are not plugged in and familiar with what is happening with gun rights and the constriction of the government over the people look at people like that as extremist. When people see an extremist like that they tend to agree with the anti-gun political leaders in office about strictor gun laws.

Who wants to be walk down a city street and pass people with AR-15's slung over their shoulder. OK I know I would, I would stop and talk with them. I have stopped and talked to people that open carry and tell them keep up the fight for the 2nd amendment. But the soccer mom that has little Johnny going to the mall would be terrified. We must realize the way we look/dress/act/ and our history has a big big impact on the words we speak.

So please, when discussing gun rights and the 2nd amendment be respectful, courtious, knowledgeable and presentable Our rights depend on it. Thanks

One thing is for sure:
they are not protesting world hunger.

I hope this is not true does not hold well for the Occupy crowd.



PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Portland police say an improvised incendiary device was set off outside a downtown office building and they're investigating a possible link to the Occupy Portland camp.

Lt. Robert King says a Molotov cocktail caused minor damage Tuesday night on an external stairwell. The building is located one block east of the two parks where Occupy Portland demonstrators have been camped since Oct. 6.

King says "there's preliminary information available that indicates a connection" to Occupy Portland. He declined to say whether that information links the incident to specific people.

The incident occurred at the World Trade Center, which houses the headquarters for Oregon's largest electric utility, state offices, a number of law firms and the office of U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley

Back to the OP. I find it interesting that people who support and fight for the 2nd can find a role model in Hitler and walk around like a Nazi. Just sayin.

Originally Posted by claypigeon

Back to the OP. I find it interesting that people who support and fight for the 2nd can find a role model in Hitler and walk around like a Nazi. Just sayin.

Are you serious claypigeon?

That was how Hitler got control of the country he first started out with strict gun laws and then had guns outlawed so the civilians could not own them and not be able to stand up against his forces.

I'm "just sayin" that was an idioic comment.

Anyone that thinks Hitler is a role model is not in his right mind.

Originally Posted by Working 4 U

Are you serious claypigeon?

That was how Hitler got control of the country he first started out with strict gun laws and then had guns outlawed so the civilians could not own them and not be able to stand up against his forces.

I'm "just sayin" that was an idioic comment.

Anyone that thinks Hitler is a role model is not in his right mind.

Agreed, although it may be JT Ready's right to parade around in a Hitler Youth costume, it's my right to think he's an @sshat for doing it.

And Mr. Protester was within his rights until he started screaming profanities in a threatening manor while inches of his target.

Originally Posted by Working 4 U

Are you serious claypigeon?

That was how Hitler got control of the country he first started out with strict gun laws and then had guns outlawed so the civilians could not own them and not be able to stand up against his forces.

I'm "just sayin" that was an idioic comment.

Anyone that thinks Hitler is a role model is not in his right mind.

The bolded part is factually incorrect. Actually strict gun control was instituted under the Weimar Republic, before Hitler was in office. You may be thinking of the Nurenburg racial laws which specifically disarmed Jews only.

"... In 1928, before Hitler came to power, a Reich Law was enacted to regulate guns. Dealers needed a license. And in order to buy ammunition and own and register a gun, one needed a certificate.

Then, as soon as Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933, Nazi party police did indeed start seizing guns from all those deemed enemies of the state. That included communists, socialists and Jews; and five years later, Jewish citizenship was revoked altogether. More, on June 12, 1933, an executive order banned the importation of guns. It eased other pre-Nazi era gun restrictions, however. German Aryans no longer needed a license to own a rifle. They could buy ammunition without a permit. And if you were a state employee, a Nazi Party member or part of a civil defense team, you did not need a license to buy and carry a handgun.

Another gun control law went into effect on April 1, 1938. At that point, it became possible for German citizens (but not Jews or enemies of the state) to buy a handgun with a simple hunter's permit. All limits on buying ammunition were lifted. Carrying a gun in public required a license.

Thus, the Nazi regime's restrictions were on citizenship and political reliability, not on guns per se. Hitler did not seize all the guns in 1934 or any other year. "