Thread: How Unalienable Rights Become Privileges

"What is the Second Amendment?

It is recognition of a right.

Parse that sentence again: Rights can be either recognized or abrogated but they cannot be granted.

In order to grant something, you first must have it. The State does not possess the right to the people's self-defense (by definition) against either personal tyranny (e.g. a thug breaking into their home) or government tyranny (e.g. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.)

You either accept that you, and everyone else, have an unalienable right to self-defense or you do not."

How Unalienable Rights Become Privileges by Karl Denninger

For the most part the 2nd is a privilege here in Portland Oregon. And it is becoming less and less.

Originally Posted by zeezee

"What is the Second Amendment?

It is recognition of a right.

Parse that sentence again: Rights can be either recognized or abrogated but they cannot be granted.

In order to grant something, you first must have it. The State does not possess the right to the people's self-defense (by definition) against either personal tyranny (e.g. a thug breaking into their home) or government tyranny (e.g. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.)

You either accept that you, and everyone else, have an unalienable right to self-defense or you do not."How Unalienable Rights Become Privileges by Karl Denninger

I do accept it, but the Law here in Portland says I will go to jail if I exercise those rights. The only way to truly exercise my rights is to first ask for permission.

Something aint right there..I just know it!

Originally Posted by Father of four

For the most part the 2nd is a privilege here in Portland Oregon. And it is becoming less and less.

Maybe because the people of Portland allow it to be so? Maybe it's time to get off your collective dead arses and start demanding your rights? Nah, the sheeple of potland would never be so . . . . What is the word I want? Bold, patriotic, conservative, or maybe Americans? Ain't going to happen, like seattle, frisco and la the libtards rule. Sure am glad I escaped, maybe you should to FoF?

"Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison and the rest would damn this nation and it's government to eternal **** were they alive to see this travesty and the millions just like it that are committed each and every year."

Originally Posted by zeezee

Sure am glad I escaped, maybe you should to FoF?

My wife, family and I would love too. We would relocate at the drop of a hat if we could. We have been trying for over a year now. No luck so far.

And yes, it is Anti-gun here for sure.

Originally Posted by zeezee

Maybe because the people of Portland allow it to be so? Maybe it's time to get off your collective dead arses and start demanding your rights? Nah, the sheeple of potland would never be so . . . . What is the word I want? Bold, patriotic, conservative, or maybe Americans? Ain't going to happen, like seattle, frisco and la the libtards rule. Sure am glad I escaped, maybe you should to FoF?

They want to be that way. Alot of them want to be that way.

Originally Posted by Father of four

"Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison and the rest would damn this nation and it's government to eternal **** were they alive to see this travesty and the millions just like it that are committed each and every year."

So . . . Why don't you gather some of your firearms loving friends in potland and do something about it? Maybe within your group you will discover another Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison or Adams? I'm 90 miles north of you, let me know when you hold your first meeting.

It will not matter if the city council just goes against what the people want anyways. One member here went there, all was in vain. Its a shame.

One member? WTF!!!!! ONE?????!!!!!!! Now if you were to put a couple 0's or even 3 0's behind it you just might get someone's attention but with one? Ain't nuttin going to happen.

Here it is. http://www.northwestfirearms.com/for...-measures.html

Great, just great, bye bye more rights.

Originally Posted by zeezee

One member? WTF!!!!! ONE?????!!!!!!! Now if you were to put a couple 0's or even 3 0's behind it you just might get someone's attention but with one? Ain't nuttin going to happen.

There could have been more then one from NWFA. I just remember the one.

From my cold dead hands... there should be clear enough

AGCR was there. A waste of time it seems.

Originally Posted by Father of four

AGCR was there. A waste of time it seems.

One meeting by one group and flush your rights are gone, right? Bull CRAP!!!!!

Webster says; Unalienable; unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.

So what you potlandites are saying is you given up, you have dropped your jeans, bent over, grabbed your ankles and are ready? Right? Sad. What happened to all the brave God loving men & women who walked the Oregon Trail to live their dream?

The Constituion doesn't not "give" us our rights... it merely declares what ALREADY IS/WAS.