Thread: How Mexico treats illegal aliens

I found this article to be interesting (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectiv...aspx?id=992156)

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Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

- The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling?

- If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own healthcare.

- Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt -- a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

- Law enforcement officials at all levels -- by national mandate -- must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

- Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico's Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, DC-based Center for Security Policy. There's been no public clamor for "comprehensive immigration reform" in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.

Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators "Smash the State," and holding signs that proclaimed "No human is illegal" and "We have rights."

But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot "in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).

As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico's southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn't respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.

Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.

Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing -- a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here's the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid, and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:

Hipócritas.


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-d

i sent this to all 58 contacts in my email list everyone else should also :-)

Yep life working as intended for good ol USA. If we had those laws we would be considered a Fascist State.

This has what to do with gun politics?

Originally Posted by CEF1959

1. I wish people would stop referring to right-wing blog entries as "articles". They aren't. They're just blog posts.

It's from Michelle Malkin, a syndicated columnist.

I wish people would properly credit their sources.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28...llegal-aliens/

The new AZ law is racist!

Nothing like a little dose of mexican hypocrisy against the evil American gringos

Originally Posted by michaels

This has what to do with gun politics?

I'd say quite a bit since Eric Holder and the Obama admin are telling us that US weapons are being smuggled into mehico and that this justifies dismantling the 2nd amendment, and also the fact that the crimes these invaders bring makes our streets and homes less safe

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

I'd say quite a bit since Eric Holder and the Obama admin are telling us that US weapons are being smuggled into mehico and that this justifies dismantling the 2nd amendment, and also the fact that the crimes these invaders bring makes our streets and homes less safe

Yep. Illegal immigration has raised the crime rate significantly as well as gang activity. Look at the man who was murdered recently by illegals close to the border. If this isn't a threat I don't know what is.

Well, (this is all sarcasm, and not based in reality folks)

I only beat my children so they end up in the hospital once a year.

Man, the dude down the street?!? He beats his kids so they end up in the hospital every 3 months!

I'm the better man.....

Let's not compare the usa to mexico.

Or mexico to the usa.

Originally Posted by michaels

Well, (this is all sarcasm, and not based in reality folks)

I only beat my children so they end up in the hospital once a year.

Man, the dude down the street?!? He beats his kids so they end up in the hospital every 3 months!

I'm the better man.....

Let's not compare the usa to mexico.

Or mexico to the usa.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

I'd say quite a bit since Eric Holder and the Obama admin are telling us that US weapons are being smuggled into mehico and that this justifies dismantling the 2nd amendment, and also the fact that the crimes these invaders bring makes our streets and homes less safe

Where did Holder and Obama say that anything "justifies dismantling the 2nd Amendment," as you assert?

And I agree with michaels: Modeling our behavior on that of a third-world country is a mistake. We stand apart and above and should remember our proud history, rather than stooping to the level of the lowest.

"Anyone who disagrees with any of my 17 posts-per-day over the past two months, even those that spread obvious falsehoods, must be a troll."

Got it. Now, if you don't mind, I'm due back in the world of reality.

Originally Posted by CEF1959

Where did Holder and Obama say that anything "justifies dismantling the 2nd Amendment," as you assert?

And I agree with michaels: Modeling our behavior on that of a third-world country is a mistake. We stand apart and above and should remember our proud history, rather than stooping to the level of the lowest.

Let us look at reality...

The CIA reports that the Mexican unemployment rate was recently only 4%, lower than 150 other countries and lower than the unemployment rate of the United States. (http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?c=xx&v=74)

Mexico is ranked #13 in GDP, higher than 172 countries. (http://siteresources.worldbank.org/D...ources/GDP.pdf)

Mexico is home to the richest man in the world, has nine billionaires and has more millionaires than Germany.

And what is it that we should be modeling to the rest of the world? From my perspective is seems that for the past 40 years we've model that a country should make a lot of laws and then not enforce them to the detriment of their sovereignty. Not sure about you but that's not what I would call a model of success. But then again it seems that Mexico is doing a great job of enforcing their immigration laws on their borders so maybe we should be using them as an example?

I'm not typing this out with malice, merely frustration. Immigration has always been the life blood of this country and will continue to be but there's a huge difference to coming here under the laws of the land and coming here illegally and then expecting equal treatment.

Just my .02

-d

Damn it I know better than to keep posting, but here goes......

Mexico is home to the richest man in the world, has nine billionaires and has more millionaires than Germany.

Hmmm.... That doesn't really say how the people live.

I believe you that Mexico has more millionaires than Germany, However, go to Germany or the German speaking part of Switzerland and see what qualifies as "poor"

Compare that to mexicos poor.

I would rather be german "poor" than mexican poor anyday of the week.

again, let's look at ourselves, and see what we can do with our country.

Originally Posted by michaels

Damn it I know better than to keep posting, but here goes......



Hmmm.... That doesn't really say how the people live.

I believe you that Mexico has more millionaires than Germany, However, go to Germany or the German speaking part of Switzerland and see what qualifies as "poor"

Compare that to mexicos poor.

I would rather be german "poor" than mexican poor anyday of the week.

again, let's look at ourselves, and see what we can do with our country.

That is because Mexico has a horribly corrupt government. I guess maybe we are modeling our country after theirs in some ways.

Originally Posted by Decker

I'm not typing this out with malice, merely frustration. Immigration has always been the life blood of this country and will continue to be but there's a huge difference to coming here under the laws of the land and coming here illegally and then expecting equal treatment.

Just my .02

-d

That's a fair statement, and I agree. But I'd like to make two points: (1) Our original settlers didn't come here according to a "law of the land." They just showed up, so there is that tradition. (2) I think most illegals mostly want to be left alone to scrub toilets, work on your landscaping, change motel beds, process meat, or pick vegetables so they can feed their families. Whatever pays the bills. Not that they like that work, but they're willing. And what they fear most is being rousted by cops. They aren't coming in taking your union pipe-fitter's job away. And they pay payroll taxes for medicare and social security that they'll never get back. When they rent, they pay property taxes through the landlord. Income taxes are withheld from their paychecks. Their kids go to school with the hope of not being landscapers or hog butchers or seasonal farm hands. It's a classic all-American story, told throughout our history. Just without papers.

Also part of the American story is the resentment of existing lower-class immigrants from earlier, who resent the newcomers as dirty, violent, uneducated, inferior, job-stealers, public-expenditures, etc. Not that anyone here fits that mold, of course.

[And before someone says it: No, they don't generally work for cash "under the table"].

Originally Posted by CEF1959

And what they fear most is being rousted by cops.

As do most law breakers.

Great article.. It seems that liberals hate any logic or reason and in no way want you to probe deep into doing research that would shed light on their blind causes. AMerica is one of the few countries in the world that is taught to hate itself. Many other countries would not even dream of allowing outsiders to have so much jurisdiction and authority over their affairs.

As for me, I have irsthand experience with racial profiling. I spent 5 months in Africa doing humanitarian work and venturing around the continent. I would be continually stopped by police, have our car searched time to time, have their authorities demand papers/passport and other information from me. Even many times I was coerced or intimidated into having to pay bribes to corrupt police to avoid penalities. One time a police officer put an AK47 right through the window of the taxi to scare me into relinquishing some of the food and water I had in the car to him.

Well, I think I am as great of a victim of racial abuse and profiling as any other foreigner. However, because I am white and it was a country run by dark skin people, they consider it their right to treat me in this way. Just imagine if a mexican or black person was treated by our police force the way I was treated in Africa? There would be lawsuits and a public outcry.

In reality, liberals are in a self-destructive and self-hated mentality where they think they owe the world favors. America has been abused by outside powers for a long time and its time we stand up for ourselves and let all the crazy, backward, war-torn and corrupt countries handle their own problems. We need to stop being the world's scapegoat and piggy bank.

Originally Posted by CEF1959

That's a fair statement, and I agree. But I'd like to make two points: (1) Our original settlers didn't come here according to a "law of the land." They just showed up, so there is that tradition. .

What original settlers? Are you talking before this was a country?

Now days the illegals are not just farm hands and toilet scrubbers. There is a lot of them that are in all kinds of skilled trades. We are talking good jobs that many americans would love to have.