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    Default Glock 25 question

    Hey all,
    I have googled this, and get a variety of answers that don't really explain this to me. Why can this piston not be imported or sold in the US? It neither has a overly large mag capacity, nor a high powered cartridge. Isn't it essentially a .380 version of the glock 17?

    Personally, I'd love to own one, but it seems weird that it's banned!
    Thanks for the input.
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    Self Defense tactics Glock 25 .380acp - YouTube

    I saw this video while searching for info on it, looks like it has little to no recoil. I do like .380 as a low end defensive cartridge, so this was something I was curious about. I like the high mag capacity, and of course, the Glock safe action pistol with no nanny parts to get in the way if it's needed in real life.

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    I heard that it was made for commie, or dictator, or military controlled countries, so that if you live there and are somehow allowed to have an weapon at all, it is not something that fires a military ball caliber.
    Does not make an ounce of sense why it is not sold here.

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    It's been asked and answered before but basically there is some stupid point system that gun importers are controlled by. Certain features of the gun equate to points and if the gun doesn't meet the point limit then it can't be imported.

    Let me google that for you

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    Couple nice articles there, thanks! I did find one that actually broke down the BAT(bubblegum)FE points system in a way that mad sense. Well, as much sense as such an arbitrary scoring criteria for firearms CAN make sense. It'd still be nice to get one. Now the Glock facility in Smyrna Georgia, are they actually manufacturing there or is it just a HQ and distribution hub? If they are, couldn't they make the 25 here, thus bypassing the BATFE's import criteria?

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    A better question would be, why would you want a ".380 version of the Glock 17"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hackercat13 View Post
    Now the Glock facility in Smyrna Georgia, are they actually manufacturing there or is it just a HQ and distribution hub? If they are, couldn't they make the 25 here, thus bypassing the BATFE's import criteria?
    Answer is because if it was to be made here they couldn't use the tenifer Glocks are known for. Has to do with environmental issues. Look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis618 View Post
    A better question would be, why would you want a ".380 version of the Glock 17"?
    And it would be a .380 version of the Glock 19 actually...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis618 View Post
    A better question would be, why would you want a ".380 version of the Glock 17"?
    For my Wife. I like .380 just fine, and in warm weather, a Ruger LCP is my daily carry. I do prefer 9mm, and have a G17. But I think she would like the lighter recoil of a .380 on a heavier frame like that. I think it'd be fun to shoot, and the 15+1 mag cap appeals to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBinWA View Post
    It's been asked and answered before but basically there is some stupid point system that gun importers are controlled by. Certain features of the gun equate to points and if the gun doesn't meet the point limit then it can't be imported.

    Let me google that for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by hackercat13 View Post
    For my Wife. I like .380 just fine, and in warm weather, a Ruger LCP is my daily carry. I do prefer 9mm, and have a G17. But I think she would like the lighter recoil of a .380 on a heavier frame like that. I think it'd be fun to shoot, and the 15+1 mag cap appeals to me.
    It's strait blowback. I'd weiger that the 9mm of the same size would be more comfortable to shoot. Then there is the cost of ammo to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hackercat13 View Post
    I do prefer 9mm, and have a G17. But I think she would like the lighter recoil of a .380 on a heavier frame like that.
    That's funny.

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    Why is it funny?

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    Disassemble your Glock 17 and feel the “heft” of its frame, the 25 will be even lighter.

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    I know, it's not heavy like my Ruger P85, but it handles 9mm nicely. I think the same frame would make .380 feel even lighter.

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    It's because of the idiotic handgun importation points system that came about because of the GCA '68

    copied and pasted from a thread on arfcom:
    The BATFE point system:

    To qualify for import, a pistol must score a total of 75 points.
    CHARACTERISTICS POINTS

    Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1

    Forged steel frame 15

    Forged HTS alloy frame 20

    Unloaded weight with magazine (per oz) 1

    .22 short and .25 auto 0

    .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3

    9mm parabellum and over 10

    Locked breech mechanism 5

    Loaded chamber indicator 5

    Grip Safety 3

    Magazine safety 5
    Firing pin block or lock 10

    External hammer 2

    Double action 10

    Drift adjustable target sight 10

    Target grips 5

    Target trigger 2

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    I'd snap up a Glock 25 in a minute if I could.

    The .380 is an excellent choice for recoil-sensitive and beginning shooters. A bigger, heavier pistol makes it even friendlier to shoot.

    The felt-recoil difference between a locked breech and blowback may be significant, but it's NOTHING compared to the huge difference in recoil between 9X17 vs. 9X19.

    Finally, if you have to make your caliber choice based on ammo cost, you might want to focus more on your finances and less on your arsenal.

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