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    >>Eye witness account<<

    Last Saturday, November 6, 2010, on a local gun range, a Springfield 1903 exploded peppering owner's face and right eye. All shooting immediately stopped after an uncharacteristically loud detonation occurred and a “brother in arms” laid on one knee covering his face sprinkled with dozens of blood oozing pin pricks. Owner of the vintage rifle chambered in 30-06, who was not wearing any eye protection at the time, admitted he thinks he double charged one of his cast bullet hand loads.

    Within minutes, what appeared to be three generation of concerned family members surrounded the shook up shooter. His children, who were at the range with his father, showed great courage. The young father received first aid, did not immediately pursue professional medical care, but instead stayed around until the shooters meet finished.

    Later on, as the shooter's and everyone's initial shock wore off, onlookers appeared to lament the destruction of the old beautiful rifle more than the shooter's injuries.
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    I can't see the serial number or arsenal on the rifle, but I'm guessing that if it was an early number, combined with a doublecharged cartridge, then failure was assured. I'm glad the shooter was only superficially injured. Let this be a lesson regarding shooting safety.

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    It is a Mark 1, a high number Springfield. I see no receiver damage, just typical damage from high pressure gases released in an action.

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    I sure hope the shooter is ok, for those of us that reload learn from this. Always be sure of your loads, double check, tripple check......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon44647 View Post
    I sure hope the shooter is ok, for those of us that reload learn from this. Always be sure of your loads, double check, tripple check......
    was thinking the same thing. I always do visual of my loads to ensure that i have not double charged them.

    i wish guns and ammo would do an extreme torture test in this area. I would like to see different cartridges overcahrged to see what the effect would be.

    some would blow the gun up, but perhaps others would not.

    very curious.

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    thats bad news for sure, have to damn careful.

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    just another reminder to always be extra careful around firearms. And for goodness sakes, wear eye protection!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by civilian75 View Post
    >>Eye witness account<<

    Last Saturday, November 6, 2010, on a local gun range, a Springfield 1903 exploded peppering owner's face and right eye. All shooting immediately stopped after an uncharacteristically loud detonation occurred and a “brother in arms” laid on one knee covering his face sprinkled with dozens of blood oozing pin pricks. Owner of the vintage rifle chambered in 30-06, who was not wearing any eye protection at the time, admitted he thinks he double charged one of his cast bullet hand loads.


    I can think of a number of times that I might fire a weapon without eye pro.

    On a static one way range shooting reloaded ammunition isn't one of them.

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    bcp gets the "trained observer" award.

    '03's come basically in three types of action "hardness". Early ones not heat-treated, Early ones double heat-treated, and later ones (of a different steel alloy).

    General Hatcher set about trying to blow them up (tlfreek, here ya go):

    He was successful blowing up the early, untreated ones, and the later different steel alloy ones. (this means actually blowing up the action, as bcp correctly observes did NOT occur here).

    General Hatcher could not blow up the double heat treated action, despite "blue pills" that were completely off the chart:

    "This rifle, selected at random from production on May 3, 1918, was first tested with ten 70,000 pund test shots, then was fired with a 125,000 pound test cartridge. The receiver and bolt held, as they invariably did with this double heat treatment..."

    Page 200: Hatcher's Notebook: An indispensible reference work to anyone interested in firearms, especially of the military type.

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    I batch load all the time EXCEPT the powder. I will mass prime,size,case prep, but when loading time comes it is individual one case start to finish. This with single stage press of course and everyone has their preferences. For me, I feel it is safer to do one at a time and when you are ready with bottleneck cases it is just add powder, add bullet, seat....your done. If you weigh each powder charge and put it in the case and immediately seat bullet, you cannot put more powder in. No loading blocks for me....gets too confusing if you are interrupted etc....you can double charge using the blocks, or knock the whole lot over. It does not save me any time. Once you have cases prepped you can go faster than you think with this system.....but not TOO fast ....thats when boo boos happen.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlfreek View Post
    i wish guns and ammo would do an extreme torture test in this area. I would like to see different cartridges overcahrged to see what the effect would be.

    some would blow the gun up, but perhaps others would not.

    very curious.
    Japanese Arisakas have the strongest actions of World War II bolt action rifles.

    When I was growing up, no one paid a bit of attention to World War II souvenir Arisakas. They could be had for $15 to $25 apiece and were considered utterly inferior to western arms. In fact, in the post-war period, anything made in Japan was considered cheap and inferior. The prevailing opinion was that the Japanese could copy anything but lacked originality and inventiveness. In the context of the Arisaka, that was about to change with the publication of P.O. Ackley's military action blow-up and metallurgy tests in the 1950s.

    Well known graduate engineer and gunsmith, Parker O. Ackley decided to find out once and for all how strong our various military actions were. Rounding up an assortment of Springfield, Mauser, Enfield P-14 and No 1 MkIII, Krag and Arisaka Type 38 and Type 99 actions, he barreled and chambered each action type for the .270 Ackley Magnum or .30-40 Ackley Improved cartridge.

    Each action was then fired with a series of progressively hotter loads until the action was wrecked. The only action that survived these tests was the Type 38 Arisaka. The 1 3/16 inch bull barrels fitted to the Type 38 actions were split or blown off, but the actions remained serviceable and intact. The machined Type 99 Arisaka action proved to be the second strongest action of the group tested.

    Shortly thereafter, the NRA reported testing a Type 38 in 6.5x50 caliber that had been rechambered for the .30-'06 cartridge by its enterprising owner who indeed hunted with this insane combination. Just imagine firing a .308" diameter bullet down a .264" bore at the pressures generated by the .30-'06 cartridge. The Arisaka digested the load without a hitch although the owner complained that the rifle kicked a lot!

    Sending one of the M38 actions to a leading heat treating firm for analysis, Ackley received the following reports:

    "The design of the receiver appears to be in some respects superior to the Springfield and Mauser from the standpoint of simplicity of machining and inletting. The receiver was not only carefully but even elaborately heat treated. Its heat treatment appears to be superior to the average Mauser, Springfield and Enfield."

    The results surprised everyone involved, and the Arisaka action earned a bit of well-deserved respect.

    Japan's intriguing Arisakas | Guns Magazine | Find Articles at BNET
    Some guys in the Japanese weapon forum at Gunboards did some experimenting to see what it would take to make an Arisaka action fail. First they tried a gross overcharge of 53 gr of IMR 3031 behind a 175 gr bullet (the Hornady manual says the maximum load for IMR 3031 with a 174 gr bullet is 41.7 gr). When that didn't do it they started using larger and larger charges of a fast-burning pistol powder (Bullseye). Bullseye is not designed for rifle cartridges so there is no load data to compare it to, but just as a point of reference the maximum Bullseye load for a 10mm handgun cartridge with a 175 gr bullet is 6.5 gr. These guys started with 10 gr and went all the way up to 40 gr of Bullseye.

    Reposting Roy's thread on "Blowing up a T 99 rifle"

    While the rifle that is the subject of this thread is a high number M1903, low number M1903 receivers with faulty heat treatment can be fractured just by hitting them with a hammer.


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