Thread: The best gun show in the portland area

OREGON ARMS COLLECTOR
TWO DAY SHOW


AUG. 28 - 29
THE HOLIDAY INN
8439 NE. Columbia Blvd.
Portland

In my opinion the best gun show in Portland.
Guns - Guns - Guns
Excellent educational displays.

I agree.

Expo show has not been going good for vendors, or customers lately. The smaller shows seem to be better for everybody, more guns, less crap.

Well with the Albany show canceled I may have to visit this one.

Any more info on this gun show? Private sales ok? Ammo?

How have the prices been in the past on used guns? I have never been to this show. If you could please post the prices to get into the show, that would be appreciated.

Thanks

Originally Posted by kaoboi503

Any more info on this gun show? Private sales ok? Ammo?

Private sales at a gunshow, as I understand it, are illegal. You need to go through an FFL - see the 'gunshow loophole' lists.

2 questions....

Free Parking? Cheaper than the expo show?

Free parking.

$6.00 admission

Usually very little modern military stuff. (AR, AK, etc.)

Oregon Arms Collectors's Year 2010 Meeting Schedule

Bruce

Originally Posted by bcp

Free parking.

$6.00 admission

Usually very little modern military stuff. (AR, AK, etc.)

Oregon Arms Collectors's Year 2010 Meeting Schedule

Bruce

Thank you! I look forward to it...

Is there a phone number to call and reserve tables?
I would like to get 4.

Originally Posted by coctailer

Is there a phone number to call and reserve tables?
I would like to get 4.

I didn't see a phone number, but here is an e-mail that was on their site m1903@yahoo.com .

Originally Posted by SgtKashim

Private sales at a gunshow, as I understand it, are illegal. You need to go through an FFL - see the 'gunshow loophole' lists.

Private sales are not illegal at gun shows (defined as a place where more than 25 guns are for sale), but the seller is required to perform a background check.

166.436 Firearm transfers by persons other than gun dealers; criminal background checks authorized; liability.

(1) The Department of State Police shall make the telephone number established under ORS 166.412 (5) available for requests from persons other than gun dealers for criminal background checks under this section.

(2) Prior to transferring a firearm, a transferor other than a gun dealer may request by telephone that the department conduct a criminal background check on the recipient and shall provide the following information to the department:

(a) The name, address and telephone number of the transferor;

(b) The make, model, caliber and manufacturer’s number of the firearm being transferred;

(c) The name, date of birth, race, sex and address of the recipient;

(d) The Social Security number of the recipient if the recipient voluntarily provides that number;

(e) The address of the place where the transfer is occurring; and

(f) The type, issuer and identification number of a current piece of identification bearing a recent photograph of the recipient presented by the recipient. The identification presented by the recipient must meet the requirements of ORS 166.412 (4)(a).

(3)(a) Upon receipt of a request for a criminal background check under this section, the department shall immediately, during the telephone call or by return call:

(A) Determine from criminal records and other information available to it whether the recipient is disqualified under ORS 166.470 from completing the transfer or is otherwise prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm; and

(B) Notify the transferor when a recipient is disqualified from completing the transfer or provide the transferor with a unique approval number indicating that the recipient is qualified to complete the transfer. The unique approval number is a permit valid for 24 hours for the requested transfer. If the firearm is not transferred from the transferor to the recipient within 24 hours after receipt of the unique approval number, a new request must be made by the transferor.

(b) If the department is unable to determine whether the recipient is qualified for or disqualified from completing the transfer within 30 minutes of receiving the request, the department shall notify the transferor and provide the transferor with an estimate of the time when the department will provide the requested information.

(4) A public employee or public agency incurs no criminal or civil liability for performing the criminal background checks required by this section, provided the employee or agency acts in good faith and without malice.

(5)(a) The department may retain a record of the information obtained during a request for a criminal background check under this section for the period of time provided in ORS 166.412 (7).

(b) The record of the information obtained during a request for a criminal background check under this section is exempt from disclosure under public records law.

(6) The recipient of the firearm must be present when the transferor requests a criminal background check under this section.

(7)(a) Except as otherwise provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this subsection, a transferor who receives notification under this section that the recipient is qualified to complete the transfer of a firearm is immune from civil liability for any use of the firearm from the time of the transfer unless the transferor knows, or reasonably should know, that the recipient is likely to commit an unlawful act involving the firearm.

(b) If the transferor is required to request a criminal background check under ORS 166.438, the immunity provided by paragraph (a) of this subsection applies only if, in addition to receiving the notification required by this section, the transferor has the recipient fill out the form required by ORS 166.438 (1)(a) and retains the form as required by ORS 166.438 (2).

(c) The immunity provided by paragraph (a) of this subsection does not apply:

(A) If the transferor knows, or reasonably should know, that the recipient of the firearm intends to deliver the firearm to a third person who the transferor knows, or reasonably should know, may not lawfully possess the firearm; or

(B) In any product liability civil action under ORS 30.900 to 30.920. [2001 c.1 §6]



166.438 Transfer of firearms at gun shows.(1) A transferor other than a gun dealer may not transfer a firearm at a gun show unless the transferor:

(a)(A) Requests a criminal background check under ORS 166.436 prior to completing the transfer;

(B) Receives notification that the recipient is qualified to complete the transfer; and

(C) Has the recipient complete the form described in ORS 166.441; or

(b) Completes the transfer through a gun dealer.

(2) The transferor shall retain the completed form referred to in subsection (1) of this section for at least five years and shall make the completed form available to law enforcement agencies for the purpose of criminal investigations.

(3) A person who organizes a gun show shall post in a prominent place at the gun show a notice explaining the requirements of subsections (1) and (2) of this section. The person shall provide the form required by subsection (1) of this section to any person transferring a firearm at the gun show.

(4) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply if the transferee is licensed as a dealer under 18 U.S.C. 923.

(5)(a) Failure to comply with the requirements of subsection (1), (2) or (3) of this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this subsection, failure to comply with the requirements of subsection (1), (2) or (3) of this section is a Class C felony if the person has two or more previous convictions under this section.

(6) It is an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (1) or (3) of this section that the person did not know, or reasonably could not know, that more than 25 firearms were at the site and available for transfer. [2001 c.1 §7]





166.441 Form for transfer of firearm at gun show. (1) The Department of State Police shall develop a form to be completed by a person seeking to obtain a firearm at a gun show from a transferor other than a gun dealer. The department shall consider including in the form all of the requirements for disclosure of information that are required by federal law for over-the-counter firearms transactions.

(2) The department shall make the form available to the public at no cost. [2001 c.1 §8]

As required by law, the Oregon State Police provides a phone number for private sellers at gun shows to perform the background check.

Firearms Instant Check System (FICS)

The Firearms Unit provides a service to all Federally Licensed Firearms dealers in the state of Oregon by conducting the Firearms Instant Check backgrounds on persons attempting to purchase a firearm (ORS 166.412). Records of the transactions are kept for five years. This database is exempt from public inspection. The funding for this Unit is based on a current user fee of $10.00 per transaction. The Firearms Unit is open from 8am to 10pm every day except Thanksgiving and Christmas as mandated by law. The unit is also responsible for conducting background checks for private party sales at gun shows.

The Firearms Unit is responsible for processing stolen gun checks against the stolen weapons files in LEDS and NCIC for the dealers and any private citizen requesting this service. There is no fee for processing the stolen gun checks. To check a firearm against the stolen record files, call 503-378-3070.

Important Phone Numbers:
FICS Instant Check (And Stolen Gun Checks) 1-800-432-5059
Local Alternate FICS Instant Check Number (For use when cell phone does not allow an 800 number)
503-585-6245
Challenge Line (for denied or pended call inquiries) 503-373-1808 x327
FICS Unit Manager 503-373-1808 x418
FICS Unit Supervisor 503-373-1808 x400
OSP Firearms Instant Check Fax 503-370-8584

Oregon State Police - Identification Services Section Firearms Instant Check System (FICS)

is this gunshow goin on this weekend?

AUG. 28 - 29
THE HOLIDAY INN
8439 NE. Columbia Blvd.
Portland

Has anyone been to this one before, what overall kind of selection do they typically have? Coctailer, are you going to have table there?

When I last attended this show it was held in the Coliseum, and for those who can recall when a gun show was a gun show, it made me know that things have not gone all to Haedes.

For this show, there used to be a "percentage rule" regarding table contents: In other words, something like "80% of all items need to be gun related", or "75% of all firearms on the table need to be pre-1970", or such.
(Don't quote me on these, merely an example to show how the nonsense is kept out of the show.)

For people who enjoy the real McCoy, this was a reassurance that the show would be a quality one. For example, at the regular Portland expo show, it takes me about 2-3 hrs to go thru. (I breeze past all new gun tables, all flak vest tables, all knife tables, beanie babies, etc.) Although this Antique Show is much smaller, twice I found myself spending most of the day there, and still not seeing everything I wanted to see. And there were actual displays and competition amongst the displays. A guy can actually educate himself on an area of firearms he may not be fully informed about.

was there this morning.its about 90% relics and you can find a few newer guns if you look hard enough.if looking for an old automatic, revolver,rifle or parts of old stuff this could be good for you.if you are looking for the ar ak stuff its far and few between,there is a lot of cool older military stuff and some interesting knives,and swords,brass knuckes etc.the price for a days entertainment is decent at 6.00 and free parking to boot

Cetme, if i'm not certain, I apologize, but I will lend you respect as a guy who is more interested in newer and/or military-modern arms. You gave this show a good review. My interests have been previously stated in this thread. You and I agree, that regardless of your interests, this show has educational value. My opinion: if you want to learn about guns, this is the show.

if a person were new to guns this would be the perfect first show.as to the historical value,they have just about everything gun/man toys from day one.the only thing that was not present was field artillery!i would like to see a few more modern war weapons and nfa relics added ..its actually a show not a mobile gun shop and toy store!definately a flash back to the days of old.

I went today. Very cool show! I loved the displays around the perimeter of the room. Some beautiful pieces of history in there.